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v.11 - Exodus 29:43 stated that the tabernacle was sanctified by God's glory. This idea goes right through scripture, but when we move to the New Testament the physical aspect of the temple pales against the concept that we are the living stones of the temple of God. This consideration should help us to take our position more seriously and rejoice more greatly in the grace in which we stand.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
8:3-6 This section of the account of the life of Solomon shows that he was consolidating the kingdom that his father had established. However the mention of chariots and horses marks that Solomon was not heeding the injunction of Deuteronomy 17:16
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v.4 - These 'store cities' it seems were used mainly for the storage of the requirements of war. It presents an opportunity for us to consider in our lives just what treasure we lay up and where we keep it.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
8:11 In removing the daughter of Pharaoh Solomon is showing an odd attitude. He realised that her presence was not appropriate in the house of David but he still kept her as wife. This is a manifestation of the spirit of compromise seen in Solomon repeatedly in his life.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
8:1 As Solomon reigned 40 years (1 Kings 11:42) he did not finish the temple and his own house until half way through his reign! Does this indicate that he was slow in the work or that he was diligent to make sure things were just right?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
HOLY TO THE LORD
The difference between holy and common is that the holy things have been set apart for a special purpose. With regards to the LORD, to be holy means to be set apart or separate to him. For something holy to be made unholy or common, it would be used as something common would be used, for purposes that are not special, and lowering its status from special to ordinary.
Solomon regarded the places that the ark of the LORD had been as holy, and he was determined to keep those places special and devoted to God. So we read, "Solomon brought Pharaoh's daughter up from the city of David to the palace he had built for her, for he said, 'My wife must not live in the palace of David king of Israel, because the places the ark of the LORD has entered are holy.'" Solomon was not willing to defile holiness by allowing his gentile wife to share what was holy to the LORD.
We are also called to be holy. We should be keeping our minds and our hearts set apart for our God. Just as Solomon would not defile the holy places, so we must try to keep our minds and our hearts free from being defiled by sin. Let's keep ourselves dedicated to God, holy to him.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Robert
8:5 Whilst the record says Solomon built Bethoron the upper and nether we realise that the rebuilt them for they had been built (1Chron 7:24) earlier.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
V.7 The descendants of the Canaanites who remained in the country were treated as war prisoners, being obliged to "pay tribute" 2Chron 2:18, while the Israelites were employed in no works but as such as were of honorable character.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
Does today's chapter expose the lie that Jeroboam told to Rehoboam (in 2Chron 10:4)? Jeroboam said that Solomon had made the people's yoke grievous, whereas 2Chron 8:7-10 tells us quite plainly that Solomon made servants of the Canaanite nations, and not of Israel.
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to David
Vs.7-9 It is true that Israelites were not subject to servitude like the remnants of other nations. Neither were they all in the army. Some were pressed into temple service, while others were merchants and farmers etc.
The underlying and growing discontent with Solomon was that he taxed everyone for everything. Merchants, for example, had to cough up part of their proceedings while farmers had to render a portion of their produce. Running such a magnificent kingdom was expensive and Solomon did not miss any opportunity to finance it.
Thus, when Rehoboam came to power, there was a petition from Israelites seeking tax relief. This tax revolt was met with disdain by Rehoboam.
Jeroboam had been in charge of the work force for the house of Joseph (1Kin 11:28) and obviously had the respect of the workers. It was to him that the disgruntled workers turned for leadership.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to Michael
8:14 The seeming incidental comment that things were done according to what David had planned belies the massive amount of work that David had been doing during his life – even though he had been told that he could not build the house! 1Chron 17:4
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
V.18 Ophir was renowned for its gold. The actual location of Ophir is uncertain. Some scholars believe that it was in India; while others suggest it was in the Arabian Peninsula; yet others think it might have been on the East African coast near the Somali Republic.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Michael
8:8 In making the Hittites and the other tribes who still remained in the land pay tribute he is neglecting the words of Moses – Deut 7:2. They should have been destroyed. So Solomon was following in the folly and disobedience seen right from the times of the Judges.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
8:2 These cities lay in the northwest of Galilee. Even though they would have been part of the land promised, it had never been conquered, The right of occupying them had been granted to Huram by Solomon; Huram refused the area because he felt it was unsuitable to the way of life of those that lived in Tyre.(1Kin 9:11) Solomon then took the land from the inhabitants and filled it with a colony of Hebrews.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to John
BEGINNING WITH GOD
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Robert
8:17 Solomon traded with the nations in the world to bring the ‘riches of the gentiles’ into Israel. So we see a development from the kingdom of David where external trade is not an aspect that he did to any degree.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
Vs.7,8 Various Canaanite peoples were living in Solomon’s kingdom. This is because Solomon’s predecessors had not completed the job that Moses told them to do (Deut 7:1-4).
The reason for destroying these people was, clearly, that Yahweh wanted to prevent the danger of these people turning His people to idolatry. And, that’s just what happened with Solomon (1Kin 11:4-10).
A similar situation applies to us. Paul exhorts believers to make sure that evil elements are not allowed into Jesus’ house (1Cor 5:6,7). Those elements will turn some from the Truth.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Michael
8:13 The mention of ‘three times in a year’ simply states that Solomon followed the requirements of the law of Moses – Exo 23:17 – something which seems to have faded out of Israel’s worship after the days of Solomon.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
V.1 It took Solomon approximately 13 years to build his own house, and approximately 7 years to build Yahweh’s house (1Kin 7:1; 9:10).
V.4 Tadmor means The city of palms. It was known by the Greeks and Romans as Palmyra.
V.5 Beth-horon means House of the hollow and was situated in the territory of Ephraim, north-west of Jerusalem. The Upper Beth-horon and the Nether (lower) Beth-horon were 2 miles (3.22 km) apart.
V.6 Baalath was a town in the territory of Dan.
Vs.17,18 See 1Kin 9:26-28. Notice the difference in the amount of gold. One account is not accurate.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
8:9 The way that Solomon treated his own people contrasts with the way that an earthly king would behave as warned by Samuel – 1Sam 8:11-17. Thus we are informed that Solomon’s kingdom – at least in its early days, was not like the kingdoms of men.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
8:11 So Solomon appreciated that his wife was not allowed to be associated with the holy things. She never was fully involved in the things of the kingdom with her husband due to her not being part of the family of God. Likewise ourselves. If we marry one who is not part of the family of God then there will be constraints which will impact upon our worship.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
8:6 The mention of “chariot cities” and “horsemen” is a passing indication that Solomon was disregarding the injunction of God Deut 17:16
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
8:18 The shipmasters of Tyre must have been very skilful. When Solomon was on the throne there was no Suez Canal. All trade from the Mediterranean that wanted to travel to India had to pass round the rather treacherous tip of Africa.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
The ships Solomon sent out to get Gold were based at a port on the Southern tip of Israel, and sent out (I presume) to the East coast of Africa to collect gold mined there. Sudan is known for having a rich supply of gold mines so perhaps this is where Ophir was? The point that's being made in this chapter is that once Solomon had got his country organised, protected, governed and policed, he then had the base from which to start going further afield and building his trading empire.
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Rob
8:10 The 250 faithful officers stand in stark contrast to the 250 who rebelled with Korah – Num 16:2 who died before the Lord rather than served before the Lord.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
8:11-12 Despite Solomon’s wealth and extent of his offerings earlier he offered according to the instruction of God. We must be careful to think that any abundance we might have allows us to worship according to our own preferences rather than the instruction of the Word of God.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
8:7 Israel had been in the land for at least 350 years by now – from the time of Joshua, through the times of the Judges and Saul and David. I suppose that initially there were those in the land who were troubled by the fact that the land had not been cleared of these nations. However as time continued one supposes that the situation become “normalised” in the minds of the people and the urgency to solve the problem diminished. It is thus for us. If we do not deal with problems as soon as they appear we may become so complacent that we fail to deal with them at all.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
8:17 The use of the word “then” might imply that Solomon started on his world trading after he had finished the temple – but that was in the twentieth year of his reign. So either he waited until his own house and the temple was completed before trading or we should see the word “then” simply introducing another topic.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
8:9 From the way in which the people spoke to Rehoboam - 1Kin 12:4 - we have to conclude that this good situation did not last.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
8:7-8 the nations mentioned should actually have been removed for the land when Israel entered Canaan under Joshua. But here we are three hundred years or more later and they are still here and seem to be accepted as residents of the land. How many things are there in our lives which we do to deal with when we are just baptised which remain and eventually become accepted as “normal” behaviour?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
8:8 Israel now are suffering the consequences of not ridding the land of the pervious inhabitants. Receiving tribute of them does not make the initial failure acceptable though some might have reasoned that if they had been removed the income for the kingdom would have been less.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
8:14 David had done a lot of preparation on the work that would be involved in maintaining temple worship – much of, it seems, when he was a fugitive from Saul. That planning would have appeared, at the time, fairly mundane. However the obvious work of preparing material when he was ruling in Jerusalem had to be backed up with planning for how the system would work. The lesson for us is clear. There is no point in having great plans unless the groundwork of how those plans will be implemented and maintained is also done. An idea, no matter how good, without thought and planning, will never happen
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
8:6 “store cities” were required in Israel in the days of Solomon because of the blessings of Yahweh upon Solomon and his kingdom.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
8:11-13 As we read through the actions of Solomon we should pause and consider his actions. There is a contrast between the way he worshipped God on the one hand and on the other doing things which did not fit with the things that God had taught.
Rather than criticise Solomon we should reflect on how often our lives are similar to Solomon’s. We are presented with Solomon’s life as a warning to us.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
8:16 Whilst the temple had been built to the exact specifications that God had specified until God’s glory entered it and all the “religious” activities associated with dedicating the house had been finished the temple was not complete. It is only when everything had been done was the house “perfected”.
We are part of the spiritual “house” consequently that “house” will not be complete until everything we do matches what is required – to be achieved what Christ returns.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
v.5 - Ezekiel has been here before - ch.3:12-14, and will be again - 44:4. It continues the theme from our comment above. Compare Song.1:4.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
43:2 his voice ... many waters Revelation 1:15 19:6
43:5 The concept of a house being filled is seen in a number of places in Scripture. These passages:- 1 Kings 8:10,11 2 Chronicles 5:13,14 7:1,2 Ezekiel 10:3,4 speak of the glory of God in Solomon's temple Haggai 2:7 Speaks of the future filling of Ezekiel's temple. And Ezekiel describes the glory of the temple that is to be built in the age to come. Ezekiel 43:5 44:4
So when the New Testament introduces the idea:- John 12:3 in the context of the burial of Jesus the link between Jesus' death and the glory of God in the house can be seen.
After the resurrection the 'house' is the ecclesia:- 2 Corinthians 6:16 So it is fitting that the holy spirit filled those in the 'house' on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:2
This contrasts horribly with the mentality of the sinner who would entice the son Proverbs 1:13 who would rather fill their houses with spoil. This is rather like Judas who, when the house in Bethany was filled with the odour of the ointment, went to the high priests greedy for the rewards of iniquity. Acts 1:18
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
v.9 - notice that is not just their kings they should put away but the carcases of their kings - the 'kings' had to be dead. We must not just stop using our 'kings' we must make them inaccessible lest we regress as we surely will if the temptation is left open. So let us put away the carcases of our kings today. Col.3:5-9
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
43:2 In saying that the earth 'shined with His glory' we are to understand that the glory of God is seen in the way that His laws are observed and in that way the earth will shine.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
43:2 In seeing the glory of God coming from the east Ezekiel is seeing a reversal of what he saw in Chapter 10 where he saw the glory leave the temple and ascend to heaven from the mount of Olives.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
43:5 In being taken into the "inner court" in this vision Ezekiel is experiencing something similar to Eze 8:16 - but on this occasion what he saw was far more edifying than what he saw in chapter 8.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
v.12 "most holy" This superlative, which had been used exclusively of the holy of holies (Exo 26:34) was now to characterise the entire building.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
a) In Eze 43:2-4 Ezekiel links the glory of God which fills this new temple with the glory he had seen right at the beginning of his prophecy (see especially Eze 11:22,23). In today's chapter therefore we are told that although it is Jesus Christ who will be reigning on earth, it is God's glory which comes into the new temple. When Jesus rose from the dead, He told the Disciples "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth" , Matt 28:20. Obviously God's glory is now so completely in Christ, that in the kingdom Christ will show forth "the glory of the Lord" .
b) The last verse today gives us another wonderful insight in the kingdom age. Eze 43:27 says that the sacrifices will be made on the "eighth day" - that's a Sunday. Before Christ died the holy day for Jews was Saturday, the Sabbath. But then in the New Testament era Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday, and so His followers, the Christians, worshipped on a Sunday, not a Saturday. Now we are being told that in the Kingdom the holy day will be the first day of the week, a Sunday. This of-course was prefigured by the feast of the Firstfruits being on a Sunday (check Lev 23:10,11).
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to David
43:7 God had said that He would dwell with Israel when they were in the wilderness Exo 25:8. There had been His house in Shiloh Josh 18:1 His glory had entered Solomon’s temple 2Chron 7:2 . But on each occasion God forsook His dwelling because of the rebelliousness of the people. Ezekiel now speaks of a time when this will never happen again – not because God has changed – it is the people who will change.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
Solomon's temple was built on a divine design. The temple, which was completed by Zerubbabel after the exile, was also built to design. Perhaps Ezekiel assisted in that design.
However, the temple that Ezekiel describes in Chs. 40-48 is not that of Zerubbabel. Zerubbabel's temple was about the same size as Solomon's, but the temple that Ezekiel describes is much larger. Even Herod's magnificent refurbished temple, which took over 80 years to complete, was smaller than Ezekiel's temple. Of course, that structure was destroyed in 70 AD.
And so, it is clear, that the temple of Ezekiel's vision is one that will be realized in the kingdom after the return of Jesus.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Michael
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
43:19 In specifying the way in which the sons of Zadok would approach unto God with a specified animal fits well with the idea that the sons of Zadok are mortal Jews of the line of Zadok officiating in the sanctuary.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
V.12 The temple area, as described in 42:16-20, is immense. That means Zion’s topography will have to be changed to form a large plateau. This change will occur when Jesus comes to Jerusalem and a great earthquake ensues (Zech 14:4).
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Michael
43:3 ‘and I fell upon my face’ is an appropriate response for anyone seeing the glories of the kingdom. Ezekiel, so to speak, was in the kingdom and showed his response to that blessing. May we be in such a position when Christ returns. Doubtless this will be our response.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
FILLED WITH GOD'S GLORY
If our bodies are the temple of the Living God, then we need to aim for achieving similar things to what is described about the temples in the Scriptures. One of the most important similarities we can ever have is to be filled with the glory of God.
After Ezekiel's tour of the temple to come, he finally saw the temple filled with the glory of the LORD. He describes it like this: "The glory of the LORD entered the temple through the gate facing east. Then the Spirit lifted me up and brought me into the inner court, and the glory of the LORD filled the temple." (Eze 43:4-8)
For God's glory to fill anything, the temple or our bodies, they must be fit to be filled with God's glory. The temple will be made to God's design. It will be given every attention to detail that it needs. God will be pleased to fill it with his glory. In the same way, to be filled with the glory of the LORD we need to be living in the way God designed us to live - in holiness, purity and love. And just as the temple will be perfect in its smallest detail, so we need to pay attention to every small detail of the way we live our lives so that they are fit for God to fill with his glory.
Let's live in such a way that we are filled with God's glory and that it shines from us for all to see.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Robert
V.4 The main entrance to the temple faces east. The reason is the light comes from that direction in the morning. That light is representative of Jesus who is the morning star (Venus) which is visible in the eastern sky before sunrise (Rev 22:16).
Jesus is also called the Sun of righteousness which shows that He fills the day with the brightness of His being (Mal 4:2). When Jesus is revealed to the world, the wicked will be destroyed with the brightness of his coming (2Thess 2:8) (KJV).
V.12 The whole of the mountain plateau on which the temple stands is sacred.
V.16 The altar surface is approximately 18 feet (5.5 m) x 18 feet (5.5 m). Compare the size of this altar to the one described in 2 Chronicles 4 (see my note on Oct.14th.)
V.17 The stairs to the altar face east like the main entrance to the temple.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
Cyrus's temple
When reading Ezekiel's temple vision, I think we probably fit into two categories. Some think more of a future physical fulfilment of this temple. Some think more about the spiritual lessons derived from it. But v9-11 give a far different picture, because in v11 God commands Ezekiel:
"If they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known to them the design of the temple... that they may keep its whole design and all its ordinances and perform them"
So the temple plans delivered to Ezekiel were meant to be built after the 70 years captivity, and the associated way of worshipping God was to be performed from then on. It was neither spiritual or future, but meant to be a present reality. Cyrus's proclamation in Ezra 1 should be seen as the start of the attempt to carry out these plans. But the success of this was dependant on their repentance (note: "If they are ashamed"). Which was also contained in God's promise:
"this is the place of My throne and the place of the soles of My feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel forever... no more shall the house of Israel defile My holy name" (v7).
But because Israel didn't really repent after the captivity, and the priests did defile God's Holy Name (v7 cp. Neh 13) God didn't allow this promise to be fulfilled. We are still waiting.
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Rob
43:2 The return of the glory of God is a reversal of what Ezekiel saw – Eze 10:18 - so we see a time of glory being ushered in. A wonderful promise for those in exile in Babylon. It also speaks to us of the time when God will dwell with men.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
43:2 Jesus’ feet will stand on the Mount of Olives on the East of Jerusalem – Zech 14:4 and so he, manifesting the glory of God, is seen as the glory coming to the temple.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
1. the glory of the Lord left Jerusalem for the mountain to the east (Eze 8:3-4;9:3;10:4,18-19;11:23-24), but now we have the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east (Eze 43:2,4,5,7); is this returning glory of what could have been pre-millennial after the Babylonian captivity? Does it echo Christ's millennial return? Is Ezekiel specifically referring to Christ's millennial return as we read in Zech 14:4,8,16,18?
2. Eze 43:10-11;Jer 18:7-10 - is the temple plan conditional upon repentance and specifically for the Jews?
3. Eze 43:13-17 - altar measurements; three Hebrew words used for "altar" in vs 13 <4196>, in verse 15 <2025>, in verses 15 & 16 <741>.
4. Eze 43:18-19 - if this is pre-Christ's sacrifice and after the Babylonian captivity it would make sense to have animal sacrifices, but if it is Messianic millennial would there still be literal animal sacrifices (end of Mosaic law but new law from Zion - 2Pet 3:7,10;Isa 2:3;65:17-18;Rev 4:1;Isa 56:6-7;Rom 12:1-2)? Do these sacrifices (Eze 43:19-26) appear to be law of Moses like and expiatory?
5. Eze 43:19 - the priesthood of the Messianic millennial will be of the order of Melchizedek (Heb 5:5-6;Rev 1:5-6;5:10) not Levi, let alone Zadok.
6. Eze 43:27;Lev 23:10-11 - are Sunday sacrifices and feasts evidence they must be taking place during the Messianic millennium?
7. Mal 1:11 - if this is Messianic millennial, would the incense offered be prayers or animal sacrifices?
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Charles
43:4 The return of the glory of God is typical of the return of Jesus to the earth when the kingdom is established on earth.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
43:5 Num 14:21 speaks of the earth being filled with God’s glory. To achieve this the glory of God has, first, to be seen in the temple. God law then will go forth from Jerusalem – Isa 2:2-4
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
43:8 The contrast between the destruction of the city as seen in the earlier chapters and this temple which is to be built in the future is so stark. It should have encouraged Israel to recognise the benefit of faithful service to Him. Does the glory of the kingdom provide us with the incentive to faithful service?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
43:2 Rev 18:1 presents a similar picture of the earth being filled with God’s glory. What Ezekiel sees here must be fed into our understanding of Rev 18.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
43:1-27 can conveniently divided thus.
:1-12 speaks of God’s glory entering the temple.
:13-27 describes the altar and offerings to be offered upon it.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
BE HOLY
One of Ezekiel's finest moments as a prophet would have been when he saw the vision of the new temple of the LORD being filled with the glory of God. As he watched, he heard the voice of God directly, saying, "Son of Man, this is the place of my throne and the place for the soles of my feet. This is where I will live among the Israelites for ever." (Eze 43:7).
What an experience that must have been! To see God's glory come to rest for ever, to hear God's voice, and to know the hope, that even in the dark times in which he lived, God would restore and renew His temple, His people and His glory.
There was one law about the new glory filled temple that Ezekiel had to proclaim. This is what it was:"This is the law of the temple: all the surrounding area on top of the mountain will be most holy. Such is the law of the Temple." (v.12).
The new temple and its law is also a picture of us. What a great day it is when we are filled with the glory of God, when He is our God and we are His sons and daughters. This is the day when we have been forgiven, purified, and given the white robes of righteousness. But let us remain holy, because the place where God lives in our hearts is most holy to the LORD.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Robert
Ezekiel’s Temple
“One tradition, championed by Chassidic rabbi Levi Yitzchak of Berditchev, is that the Third Temple has already been built in heaven and will descend on earth fully assembled once we prove ourselves worthy. It will mysteriously fit every Jew's unique personal spiritual needs, according to his own relationship with God. The Shabbat before Tish'a b'Av is called Shabbat Chazon, the Shabbat of the Vision, because on this Shabbat, once and only once every year, God grants every Jew a vision of the Third Temple. If you haven’t seen it, your soul saw it. [Based on Megillah 3a: “…though they themselves did not see, their souls saw.”] Emphasis added.
“In Midrash, God tells Ezekiel: Learning in the Torah about the description of My House is as great as building it. Go and tell the Jewish people to occupy themselves in learning about the Temple, and in that merit I will consider it as if they are actually involved in building it. [Midrash Tanchuma, Tzav 14; Yalkut Shemoni on Eze 43:10,11 (382).” Emphasis added. https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3009476/jewish/Why-Havent-Jews-Rebuilt-the-Temple-Yet.htm
In the book, VALUES FROM SINAI, The Chofetz Chaim on Pirkei Avos, compiled by Machon BAIS YECHIEL, Jerusalem, 2002, has on p. 12 from the Midrash Yilamdenu. “Hashem exhorts his Chosen People: Although the Holy Temple is destined to be destroyed and the service of offering sacrifices will be abolished, do not forget the Order of the Sacrifices [Seder Kodahim], and be careful to read them [and study the laws pertaining to them]. If you study those laws, I [i.e. YHWH] shall regard it as if you are actually engaged in bringing the sacrifice.” Emphasis added. (Cf. Gal 3:14; Gal 4:9; Heb 6:6; Heb 10:4-6; 1Pet 2:9,10)!
None of this is found in the Torah! However, the Rabbis explanation is that certain difficult passages of the Torah and their “hidden sentences” can only be interpreted and explained by them. https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2398445/jewish/Is-Midrash-for-Real.htm/
Cf. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/midrash-101/
Do not give “heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, who turn away from the truth” (Titus 1:14). They have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. Being ignorant of God’s righteousness, they go about establishing their own righteousness, not God’s. For Christ is the end of the law to everyone that believes Rom 10:3,4). Let us pray for that day when all Israel (12 tribes) shall be saved (Rom 11:26,27).
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
43:4 in vision Ezekiel saw the glory of God leave the temple going out towards the east –11:22-23 – so Ezekiel is seeing a reversal of what he saw in vision earlier. This must have been quite a comfort to him.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
43:3 the time when the angel came to destroy the city is recorded in 9:2-5. But now it is a place of glory.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
43:2 Ezekiel had, in vision, seen the glory of God depart from off the temple – Eze 11:23. As soon as he had seen the glory of God leave the temple the vision that commenced in Eze 8 ends. But now in vision he sees the glory of God return to the temple. Doubtless Ezekiel was aware that God had not cast off His people when he saw the glory depart. However to see it returning would serve to confirm Ezekiel’s confidence in his God.
A lesson for us is that when things look very bleak the promises of God should serve as encouragement to think about the future glory of the kingdom.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
43:2 In vision – Ezekiel 11:23 –had seen the glory of God depart from the temple prior to the destruction of the city by the Babylonians. He doubtless wondered where it would all end. But now he sees, in vision, the glory returning. That must have been a great comfort to him.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
43:11 Being “ashamed” will be a pre-requisite for Israel when they see Messiah. We should be asking ourselves whether we are ashamed of our previous way of life.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
10:9 - The concept of entering in through Jesus is brought out quite a lot in the NT. The following passages make good and exciting exhortation in this context. John 14:6, Rom.5:1,2, Eph.2:18, Heb.10:19-22
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
9:38 When men and women came and worshipped Jesus they were giving him esteem. They were not worshipping like one worships God. Matthew 8:2 9:18 14:33 15:25 18:26 Mark 5:6 John 9:38 12:20
It was a mark of respect to one in authority.
10:16 The mention of 'one shepherd' probably caused the disciples to think of Ezekiel 34:23 37:24 So maybe they would have thought that the 'other sheep' were the kingdom of Israel who were taken captive by the Assyrians. However Jesus clearly is thinking about the way in which the gentiles would be incorporated into his name.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
9:40-41 The Pharisees were actually 'blind' as they were unable to see that Jesus was the Messiah despite having seen all the miracles that he had performed. However because they claimed to have understanding they were responsible for their situation. They would be judged according to their own assessment of themselves. They were, in fact, unteachable through their arrogance. Is this a lesson for us?
10:16 In saying that the sheep 'shall hear my voice' Jesus is quoting Psalm 95:7. This Psalm reminds Israel how they fell in the wilderness even though they had been delivered from Egypt. Very appropriate when we realise that he is calling for commitment close to the time of his death. Some would have continued with him for most if not all of his ministry and were liable to fall away just as Jesus effected the real work of redemption through his death and resurrection.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
ch 9 - Continuing the theme seen the first time we read John this year the blind man was healed in contrast to the leaders who were blind. The detail is interesting :6 'anointed' literally is 'daubed' or 'spread'. Israel, In Isaiah's day (Isaiah 44:18) had their eyes shut because they had been 'shut' - Hebrew 'daubed'.
10:25 So again, as we have commented twice before, we see that Jesus shows his utter dependence on his Father.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
9:1-7 Jesus had just left the temple and encountered the man blind from birth. The Lord could have healed the man on the spot. Instead, He put a clay solution on his eyes and sent him to wash in the pool of Siloam.
The clay was significant of man's decaying constitution that could only be overcome by baptism (washing) through faith.
But the Pool of Siloam was not near the temple. It was situated to the south in the Lower City. This meant that the blind man would have to negotiate the narrow, busy streets half-way across town. That would indeed be a journey of faith. After successfully being guided to his journey's end he would be able to see perfectly.
We were blind from birth and doomed because of our disposition in Adam. Yet through belief, baptism, and a faithful walk, under guidance, we may yet be able to see perfectly in the Kingdom (1Cor 13:12).
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Michael
ch 9 The whole episode with the man born blind, relates wonderfully to the teaching of Jesus in Luke 14 and 15. In 14v34-35 Jesus introduces his comments in chapter 15 by asking about the salt which has lost its saltiness. This salt wasn't even fit for the dunghill, but "men throw it out". This is interesting. Not "God throws it out", but "men throw it out". This is what we see in John 9v34 "and they cast him out". Why did the Pharisees do it? Because "you were completely born in sins".
Jesus goes on to talk about the same thing in Luke 15. The lost sheep, the lost coin, and the lost man, are the same as the salt that has lost it's saltiness, or the man who had sinned. The message of Jesus is that though men would cast this out, he on the other hand would restore it and make it salty. He would be the good shepherd, and the loving father in the parables. He demonstrated this exact thing in John 9v 35 "and when he had found him". Jesus searched for that lost man, found him, and showed him the way to restoration, which was by faith in the Christ (v35-39).
This episode is an acting out of the parable of the lost sheep, the lost coin, and the lost man. Jesus highlights this by saying in v39 exactly that which he had said about the parables. The lost son had understood the parable. The blind man knew he was a sinner, and was the one who understood the gospel. The Pharisees who believed they had no sin (I think we can assume this from v34) didn't understand. They were the son who remained with his father, or the sheep who were in the pen. They said "we see", therefore their sin remained (v41).
ch 10 A shepherd risks his life to protect the sheep from being taken (v11). If the shepherd is already dead, and it was because he was protecting the sheep (v15), then logically the thing he was fighting must be gone, or else he was not a very good shepherd. What I mean to say is this; the battle is over, and there are no more wild animals. The shepherd has already died in protecting us sheep. This means that there is nothing more for him to fight (Romans 8v1). Our only fight now is for us to follow on behind him, as he leads us in and out. If we do this, sin has no more hold on us.
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Rob
9:33 In saying 'If this man were not of God, he could do nothing.' The man who was born blind is simply restating what Nicodemus said (John 3:2)
10:39Jesus is seen in John to be in danger a number of times.(John 7:30,44, 8:59) where his enemies wanted either to capture or kill him.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
10:11 Though this may be said of literal shepherds who, even for their flock, have, like David, encountered "the lion and the bear". Yet here, it points to the struggle which was to issue in the willing surrender of the Redeemer's own life, to save His sheep from destruction.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to John
9:17 We see here a spiritual development within the man that had been born blind at this point. When first asked how his eyes were opened, he answered that he knew him not(Christ), (V.12) Now, when asked the third time, he answers that Jesus was a prophet. For God had revealed himself to him through Jesus. Another thing we must not discount,is the fact that this would have taken a lot of courage. An example for all.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to John
10:11-14 Jesus talks about two classes of leaders: shepherds and hirelings. The shepherd puts the needs of his sheep first; a hireling seeks his own welfare first. Such was the difference between the first king (the people's choice) Saul, and the second king (God's choice) David. David, of course, foreshadowed the Lord Jesus.
We should consider of which class we are. Do we put the needs of our brethren first, or are they secondary? This consideration is important on both an individual level and an ecclesial leadership level. Shepherds are the only acceptable leaders to the Lord.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to Michael
9:16 The division caused by Jesus’ healing is what the gospel is all about. It causes division – or at least it should – between those who see Jesus as Messiah and those who do not. It should not cause division between them who do see Jesus as Messiah.
10:37 In claiming, by implication, that he was doing ‘the works of his Father’ he was doing no more than the Pharisees would have claimed – or at least should have been doing. It was the fact that Jesus’ actions condemned them because they were not doing God’s will that caused them to hate Jesus.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
LISTEN TO THE SHEPHERD
In describing himself as the Good Shepherd, Jesus said this: "The sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice." (John 10:2-4)
One of the most special things we can do for anyone is to learn their name. Having someone know our name makes us feel special and important to them. It tells us that we are more than just another face or another number, but that we mean something to them. Of all the millions of people in the world, Jesus knows our name personally. What an awesome privilege it is to be known and cared for by the Son of God.
For our part, we need to get to know his voice so that we can follow him. We need to come to trust him, as sheep know the voice of their shepherd, trust him and follow him. The more we listen to him and hear what he has to say, the easier it will be for us to recognise him by what we hear. We have no pictures that accurately tell us what Jesus looked like, and neither do we have voice recordings. But what we do know is what he says, how he thinks and what he does.
As loyal sheep, let's follow the good Shepherd.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Robert
10:27 We learn from hearing, not seeing. How many times do we read God said? We use more and more visual aids than ever, but it is still by hearing that one learns.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to John
10:16 Jesus' first obligation was to save His people Israel (Matt 15:24). He makes it clear, though, that His mission was to eventually include the Gentiles also.
10:41 John was revered as a prophet even though he never performed a single miracle (John 21:25). Jesus underscored His credibility by performing miracles and yet many would not accept Him (John 14:11).
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Michael
FOUR DIFFERENT REACTIONS TO JESUS
1. The neighbours revealed surprise and scepticism (v.8)
2. Some Pharisees showed disbelief and prejudice (v.16)
3. The parents believed but kept quiet for fear of excommunication (v.20-21)
4. The healed man showed consistent and growing faith (A champion for the Lord)
"Where there is no vision, the people perish" Prov 29:18
Vision is the world's most desperate need. There are no hopeless situations, only people who think hopelessly. Heb 12:2
Peter Dulis [toronto west] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
9:11-12 That the man did not know who Jesus was highlights the fact that Jesus did not perform miracles to elevate himself in the eyes of the people.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
10:12 So how do we react when there are attacks made upon the gospel and ‘sheep’ run the risk of being taken from the flock – the community of believers? It is all too easy to keep silent and do nothing to defend the faith. As such are we not being like the hireling?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
9:5 In speaking of himself as ‘the light of the world’ Jesus is returning to a point he has already made – John 8:12. But it is not just Jesus who is the light of the world. We are, likewise to be lights – Matt 5:14. It is not good enough looking to Jesus and to sit back and relax. He is our example. We must imitate him.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
10:2,34 There was a common belief among the Jews that any misfortune was the result of sin. But, Jesus dispels such a notion (Luke 13:1-4).
10:18 The Greek word exousia is translated power (KJV) but could just as easily been translated authority. The ESV and other modern versions do translate it as authority. That takes the sting out of the Trinitarian claim that Jesus is God.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
9:3 Jesus dispels the Jewish notion that infirmities were the result of sin (9:34).
10:20 Jesus’ detractors said that he had a devil (KJV), or more correctly a demon (ESV). Being possessed by a demon was attributed to those having a mental incapacity. In Jesus’ case, he was thought to be insane.
10:22 The Feast of Dedication (ESV), which we know today as Hanukkah, was introduced by Judas Maccabeus to commemorate the cleansing of the temple after Antiochus Epiphanes (215 BC-164 BC) had defiled it.
Judas Maccabeus led a successful revolt against Antiochus Epiphanes from 167 BC-160 BC. It was in 165 BC that Judas established the feast in December of that year. The feast ran for eight days.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Michael
9:11 The reaction of the Pharisees to the man who had been cured of his blindness is an awful parable of the nation of Israel. They could ‘see’ but were blind in that they could not ‘see’ their Messiah. The man had been bind but now recognised Jesus as a prophet. –Isa 6:9-10
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
FIGHTING WOLVES
Jesus describes himself as the "Good Shepherd." (John 10:11) He explains how he lays down his life for the sheep. They are his sheep and he is committed to them, to keep them safe and together.
As part of his description as the Good Shepherd, he contrasts his role with that of a hired hand who also looks after the sheep. "The hired hand is not the shepherd who owns the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for he sheep." (v.12-13) From this it is obvious that the Good Shepherd is the opposite of the hired hand. When he sees the wolf coming, the Good Shepherd will stay and fight for it.
Let us fill in the picture a little bit more. Jesus is the Good Shepherd. We are the sheep and together we make up his flock. The wolf is temptation and sin, because it is sin that causes death. If Jesus is our Good Shepherd and we are his sheep, then from this we know that when we are tempted, he is there to help us fight the temptation before it becomes sin and death in us. Our role is to bleat for help. Like helpless sheep we have no strength against the wolf. So let us call out to the Good Shepherd because only he can successfully fight off the wolves of sin.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Robert
When Jesus says "I am the good shepherd" 10v1-11, he means to contrast himself with the Jews, who he calls thieves, robbers, strangers or wolves. They had cast the man out (9:34) and would have cast out his family too (9:22). Whereas Jesus specifically went to find him (9:35). We should examine ourselves to see whether we're acting more like the good, or the bad shepherds.
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Rob
10:16 Jesus draws together three areas of Scripture here.
Isa 56:7 them also must I bring
Psa 95:7 they shall hear my voice
Eze 34:23 One shepherd
Jesus, by use of the Old Testament is showing that he is the fulfilment of the prophecies of the coming of Messiah as a shepherd.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
PREDETREMINED CONCLUSIONS
It wasn't until relatively recently that the world of science concluded that the earth is a sphere. Up until that time all the men of knowledge had convinced themselves that the world was flat and that if you sailed too far you would fall off the edge. Even if there had been a satellite up above the atmosphere to take a photo of the earth, they still would have looked at the photo from their own point of view and concluded that the earth was a flat disc. They were not prepared to change their minds, no matter what their investigations proved.
The same thing happened with the Pharisees in the days of Jesus. Jesus had healed a man who was born blind. This healing caused a bit of a sensation among the people which Pharisees decided to investigate. The problem with their investigation, though, was that they had already made up their minds what the conclusion would be before they started. They refused to see or acknowledge the truth even though they had gone out to investigate it.
I wonder whether we do the same things sometimes? As we study the Bible, are we looking to consolidate our own conclusions, or are we looking to learn what God has to say to us?
Let's turn off our own point of view for a moment and actually listen to what God's word tells us.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Robert
“I am the good shepherd…My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”
The most universally known image of Jesus is that of the good Shepherd. Throughout the Centuries, the theme of the good shepherd has been the motif for sublime music, magnificent art, exquisite poetry, stirring exhortations, and moving literature. From earliest childhood, it has captured our imaginations and comforted our spirits.
In the book, “The 100 Greatest Advertisements” by Julian Watkins, Julian attributes the following ad in an English newspaper to the Irish Explorer, Ernest Shackleton: “Men wanted for hazardous journey. Low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete darkness. Safe return doubtful. Honour and recognition in event of success.” Shackleton received 5,000 replies, and 27 men were chosen to begin a trial of physical endurance of wind, ice, and snow in trekking the Antarctica as they set sail from England on the Endurance in August 1914. Shackleton pledged: “Follow as I lead, do what I say must be done, and I’ll get you home.” Amazingly he did, being rescued by the Chilean ship, Yelcho on August 30, 1916. It is a riveting story, and the American Museum of Natural History documented their journey as one of the greatest tales of survival in expedition history!
Jesus said his sheep would hear (listen to) his voice and follow him (John 12:26), do what he says (Luke 10:25-28), and promises to lead them home, honouring them with an incorruptible crown of eternal life (John 14:2,3,19) if they follow his instructions. Yet, despite the many who accept the call, only few will be chosen (Matt 22:14). Our good Shepherd wants us to entrust our lives to him, and he will give us strength for the journey. Christ, matchless in goodness, protects, feeds, leads, and nurtures his followers. Why is it that people will sign up for such hazardous causes, but reluctant to sign up and totally commit their lives to Christ? Only Christ is able to lead us from death to life, from bondage to freedom, from loneliness to friendship, from aimless wandering to a life of meaning and purpose.
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Valerie
“When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, and said unto him, Go wash in the pool of Siloam…He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.”
The water from the pool of Siloam was the only water used in the ordinance of the red heifer (see Num 19:17). The “running water,” chay, # <2416>, is literally “living water,” or fresh water that is able to impart life. This mixture of living water with the ashes of the red heifer purified those who had become “unclean.” Only pure water can purify.
The “last day” in John 7:37, is the eighth day of the Feast of Tabernacles, and ties in with the pool of Siloam! The Feast of Tabernacles began on the fifteenth day of the seventh month (Lev 23:34), during which there was the sin offering, burnt offering and drink offering.
Alfred Edersheim in his book, The Temple: It’s Ministry and Services, wrote: “…The Pool of Siloam was fed by the living spring farther up in the narrowest part of the Kedron Valley, which presently bears the name of ‘the Virgin’s Fountain,’ but represents the ancient En-Rogel and Gihon…The Pool of Siloam is the same as ‘the King’s Pool’ of Neh. ii.14. It was made by King Hezekiah… While the morning sacrifice was being prepared a Priest accompanied by a joyous procession with music went down to the Pool of Siloam whence he drew water into a golden pitcher…When the Temple-procession had reached the Pool of Siloam, the Priest filled his golden pitcher from its waters. Then they went back to the Temple, so timing it, that they should arrive just as they were laying the pieces of the sacrifice on the great Altar of Burnt offering, towards the close of the ordinary Morning-Sacrifice service…” Edersheim explains that water was poured into silver basins the first seven days from the 15thto the 21stday, but on the eighth, or last day, that great day of the Feast, a priest was sent (Siloam means sent) for a different type of water, which he was to pour into a golden pitcher. When Jesus cried out, “…If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me…out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water” (John 7:37-38); he was talking about the water from the pool of Siloam poured out on the eighth day of the Feast of Tabernacles. He typified the “pool of Siloam” on the eighth day as referred to in the prophecy of Isa 12:2-3! Those in whom Christ dwells are, “wells of salvation,” or the “pool of Siloam,” by which those who hear us can draw from us and receive life (John 4:14).
The “pool of Siloam” brings light and understanding to all those blind to the will and purpose of God. The healing of the blind man (the clay, Isa 64:8) in contact with this purifying water was his eye-salve (Rev 3:18). Those who are blinded by the veil of religious legalism need to be "washed" to see the light of God’s Word. The spit revealed he was not just physically blind, but also spiritually blind, and, therefore, “unclean” (see Num 12:10,13-14 cp. Lev 13:45; Deut 25:8-9), and needed to be washed, but not just by any water! It is a prophetic allegory.
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Valerie
10:7 Jesus is the ‘door of the sheep’ – the sheep gate. It is instructive to notice in Neh 3:1 that the sheep gate is the only gate repaired which is not mentioned as having bars and locks. Indicating that the way in through Jesus is not barred to anyone who has the right frame of mind.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
Wes Booker [South Austin Texas USA] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Wes
9:19-22 The discussion between the Jewish leaders and the parents of the one who was blind is instructive. It shows how men and women can avoid telling the truth or speaking that which they know to be true because of fear of what others will say or do. We must never fall into the trap of being so compromised.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
10:30 In saying that again they took up stones to stone Jesus we are reminded that they did the same in John 8:59
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
9:13 The neighbours of the man who had been healed took him to the Pharisees. The reason, it seems, being the neighbours did not want to appear to be associated with Jesus lest they be put out of the synagogue. We learn in John 9:22 that this was the threat made against those who confessed that Jesus was Christ.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
HOW DARE YOU LECTURE US!
They were the ones who knew their Bibles better than anyone else. They were supposed to have been the spiritual leaders of Israel. They were the teachers in Israel, the ones the average person thought they would be able to get answers from. And then they came across the man born blind. All their lofty arguments and great ideals seemed to come to nothing in the presence of his simple logic.
He had no training in theology or the law and traditions, yet his simple trust and lessons in faith learned over the past twenty-four hours ran rings around the teachers and their superior knowledge. In the end the teachers of the law got so frustrated with the blind man's faithful logic that they yelled at him, "'You were steeped in sin at birth. how dare you lecture us!' And they threw him out." (John 9:34).
The lesson I learn from this is that we need, like the blind man, to have our minds and hearts open to the words and work of God in our lives. We need to develop a simple and humble faith, no matter how much we have learned. We need to be sure that we don't rely on our own knowledge or status.
Let's make sure our faith is as strong as the blind man's faith, and that it is used in a powerful way.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Robert
The bad shepherd. We see a great example of a good shepherd in this chapter in one who takes care of his sheep, goes out and searches for lost sheep.
What about bad shepherds?
Well in John 9:32 we see the blind man put out, in John 10:4 we see Jesus also puts out his sheep but the difference is he goes before them to show the way where ever we go, whatever sufferings we will endure he has been there in fact he gave his life for his sheep.
When i read that chapter I was thinking of those Pharisee’s. Those Pharisee’s had better watch out, I thought to myself their bad shepherding is pointed out here, Prophecy is wonderful isn’t it? But do we ever think those prophetic words are aimed at us?
I didn’t, I thought that’s the Pharisee’s Ezekial is writing about, these words were not so exciting when I thought it could be myself! We must remember that Prophecy isn’t so much as telling what will happen in the future but what we should do in regard of the future! Ez 34 is that part of the prophecy entitled “the time of the restoration of Israel and preparation of the glorious return, precisely the time we are now living in. So these words are also a warning to us.
So where doesn’t the responsibility of a shepherd lie?Well the Rec bro. should be a shepherd, so should his A.b’s, The point is we all look at someone else and think they should be shepherds don’t we?
The fact is we All should be as shepherds tending to each other pasturing each other, and to assosciate as friends. If we keep expecting someone else to be a shepherd eventually no one will be a shepherd, in turn the sheep are not cared for and That is what Ezekial 34 is warning us about.
In ex 34 we see six problems which arise when shepherds stop caring or feeding a flock. And this is the real warning to us.
All these 6 points warn us of the progression an ecclesia or indeed an individual will go through if the flock isn’t fed spiritually, notice the increase in intensity, if there were no diseased ones there would be no sick ones, if there were no sick ones there would have been no broken ones if there were no broken ones there would be none to drive away, if you hadn’t driven them away, there would be no straying ones. But these shepherds decided the best way to keep the ecclesia together was to run it by force, and as Rotherham tranlates by rigourous rules, rules alone are not the things which keep an ecclesia together. (but of course required with love).
So what does that mean to us? Well we should be seeking out those who are sick, for if we don’t get sick ones we don’t get broken ones, and so on.
When do we notice someone is sick? Normally when they haven’t been to the meeting for a few weeks isn’t it? Someone who is struggling doesn’t just wake one morning and say, I feel like straying or leaving the truth it is a steady downward spiral like what we have just read about.It starts off with being starved of food.
We must also remember that just because a brother or sister is attending a meeting doesn’t mean he or she is not sick or weak, broken or straying. They may be here seeking spiritual food, while in the week straying, we must make sure those who are struggling get the food they need. We must make sure we recognize those who need feeding spiritually.
So what does this feeding require how can we tell if someone is sick?
Most importantly we have to attend don’t we?
Would a shepherd expect his sheep to go off on their own? No he would go with the flock, why? to feed the flock! How does he feed the flock?
Have a look at these verses Heb 10:25
stephen cox [Sedgley UK] Comment added in 2015 Reply to stephen
9:35 It would appear that when Jesus heard of the fate of the man who he had given sight to had been ostracised by the Jewish leaders that Jesus sought him out. Herein is a lesson for us. It is not enough to simply meet a need when it is seen but to continue to care for the individual we have helped. Seeking them out to find how things are with them if necessary.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
9:16 Nicodemus – John 3:2 – has already sad that the Jewish leaders recognised that God was with Jesus because of his miracles. But now the same people actually deny that!
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
“I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.”
The beautiful theme of shepherding is read throughout the Bible. We read it concerning, Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, etc. Christ, as the good Shepherd, cares for his flock, so much so, that he gave his life for them (cf. Psa 100:3; Isa 53:6).
In Heb 13:20, Christ is referred to as the “great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant.” Christ satisfied the terms of his covenant being obedient unto death (Phil 2:8). He gave his life that we may have life! At baptism, we enter into covenant relationship with him; we become his sheep over which he resides. We too must satisfy the terms of our covenant if we are to enter into eternal life.
In 1Pet 5:4, Christ, the King of Glory, is referred to as “the chief Shepherd” who will return for his sheep and give them a crown of life (Col 3:4). The immortalized saints will be his under-shepherds. These sheep heard his voice and followed him (Matt 16:24).
Are we sheep who care for one another, try to help one another in love, or do we go about beating the flock, gossiping about the flock, criticizing, slandering the flock for not believing exactly like we do, and somehow seem to think our sins are not as bad as theirs? This is the manifestation of the flesh, and such are not fit for being shepherds. How beautifully Christ manifested to us the Christ-Way in these progressions, as compared to the Flesh-Way, which is nothing short of ugly!
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Valerie
“When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay.” (cf. Mark 8:23-25).
Clay is very hard when dry. Water must be added to be able to make a paste out of it. In this case, Jesus used his spittle. Jesus did not need physical props to work miracles. He merely spoke and healings followed (cf. Matt 15:28; Luke 17:12-14). So why did Christ use this form of demonstration?
One explanation may be that in the ancient world, saliva was considered a treatment for blindness. Christ, recognizing their spiritual need, he offered this physical action in hopes of their focusing their faith on him. The physical action was to draw their attention to something deeper - his Father’s original creation of man from clay (Gen 2:7; cp. Isa 64:8; Jer 18:1-6). In so doing, Jesus showed the miracle he was about to perform came from God; that he truly was their Messiah, the legitimate Son of God.
When I was a teenager, blind people scared me. I avoided them like the plague, and if they walked on one side of the sidewalk, I would cross the street to the other side. Then, one winter’s afternoon, I took Public Transportation to visit my grandmother in the hospital. She was dying of cancer. When I left her, it was snowing, but ever so lightly.
I boarded the bus back home and as I sat down, I noticed a blind man on the bus. My heart began to beat rapidly and I kept hoping the blind man would get off soon. One by one, the people disembarked, but not the blind man. Fright seized me when only he and I were left on the bus. I have no explanation for this irrational fear, but it was very real.
Meanwhile, the snow fall turned into a blizzard! The bus halted; visibility was almost nil! The bus driver could not go further and asked the blind man where he lived and for me to walk him home! Imagine my horror! I froze when I had to take the blind man’s arm, and my heart raced so hard and my breathing became so heavy that he asked me if I was alright. He felt and/or heard it. Well, I wasn’t, but I would not tell him about my fear. We walked close to two miles in that heavy blizzard when we arrived to his home. His family looked very worried, but that turned quickly into smiles. They were so happy and so grateful when they saw me lead him safely home that this moment is still etched in my mind. Later that evening my grandmother died. I thought to myself, what a horrible day I had! I lost my grandmother and I had to walk a blind man home in the blizzard. This is how the carnal mind works.
Jesus tried to take those he healed from one way of thinking to another way of thinking in hopes of a more beautiful way of seeing things. I learned this lesson several years later. That horrible day became a spiritually moving day, in that I got to see and kiss my grandmother one last time. This meant a lot to me. Then, what a difference I made in helping the blind man safely home and the relief and joy I brought to his family. I no longer fear blind people. What a fulfilling day it truly was, but I was too blind to see it then. Since then, I have learned to go beyond the physical actions and think differently about my circumstances. To see life through Jesus’ eyes and feel with his heart makes everything look so differently and brings with it despite all the storms of life, a peace so beautiful and satisfying. What a lesson Jesus taught and how sad if we overlook it!
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Valerie
9:16 We have seen already that the Jewish leaders knew that Jesus came from God – John 3:2 – but now they deny that. Their denial is because, even though they recognised his miracles as special his behaviour did not conform to their expectation. So they rejected him – there was a conflict between their knowledge and expectations. Rather than trust what they knew they relied on their assumptions. A warning to us to trust facts, not assumptions.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
“I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.”
It is somewhat of a metaphor to speak of life and death as day and night. We all have our days; some shorter, some longer and, therefore, we must put our day to good account. In John 17:4, we read Christ confidently saying, “… I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” His life, though short, was full and he left nothing undone. No matter where we are in the day, we have no time to lose.
The world as a whole is in great darkness, but the Word of God is a lamp, which enables us to walk in light in the midst of the surrounding darkness (Psa 119:105). Christ’s enemies were not able to stop him until he completed his work, and so no one can stop our course before the work allotted to us is accomplished. “When the Deity has a purpose to perform or develop, He lays hold of any of His creatures whose peculiarity He requires in the operation.” Dr. John Thomas, 1860.
Of course, there is the possibility of our leaving undone the work allotted to us by Deity’s wisdom. If we do for whatever reason, we shall forfeit our reward for faithful service, whilst others will be raised up to do the work we have forsaken and take the crown which might have been ours. Had Esther, in fear for her own life, refused to attempt to save her people from destruction, deliverance would have come in another way.
“'Knowing neither the day nor the hour when the Son of Man Cometh.’ This conclusion cannot have a slackening effect on those who rightly estimate the solid and far-reaching scheme of truth to which the gospel has introduced them, and who recognize that the Lord’s judgment will be brought to bear, not on the state and attitude of his servants at the moment of his arrival, but on the part they have sustained during the weary days of his absence.” Robert Roberts, Christadelphian, 1884 (Emphasis added).
May we continue to work while we can for the night comes when we shall no longer be able to work. If we are true servants, we will work because that’s what servants do and occupy ourselves in Christ’s service until he comes (Luke 19:13). All that we go through in the process of faithfulness will not have been in vain. What satisfaction it will be then to hear the words, “Well done, good and faithful servant… enter thou into the joy of thy lord” (Matt 25:23).
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Valerie
9:7 We should try to put ourselves in the place of the man. “Go wash in the pool of Siloam” was a major event for him. He had to find his way, being still blind. He would have needed to ask for help, all the time believing that what Jesus had said would come to pass.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
A reader writes: “How did you find your way to the blind man’s home and how did you get from there to your home? I was brought up in Alberta Canada and never experienced this drama.”
My reply: I was brought up in Montreal, Canada, and they did and do get some pretty fierce winters at times! The blind man could talk and he told me where he lived and with every street corner he wanted to know the name of the street. It wasn't always easy to see, but not impossible. This gave him a good idea where we were. Ironically, he guided me; I just led him!
As it turned out, he lived but a few blocks away from where I lived. I recognized the area, as by this time (about two hours later, maybe longer) the blizzard had eased up enough so I could "see," for myself, where I was. Recognizing the neighbourhood, I knew the rest of the way home. God was with us every step of the way, and I wasn't short of prayer! All public transportation was halted, not that I saw any cars on the road, either.
My left eardrum froze and burst, and I'm almost deaf in that ear, as a result. It was anything, but drama! It was a real life incidence that brought good out of the bad, and an ear drum was well worth helping the blind man in the process, not to mention the change it brought in me.
Interestingly, my granddaughter lives in Alberta, Canada, and they do get some fierce winters at times. She sends me beautiful pictures of the Rocky Mountains in Banff. Be glad you didn’t have to walk through a blizzard, although I have no regrets it happened to me.
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
9:7-8 See the uncertainty amongst the people. Some said that he was the blind man, others were not sure. So amazing was the fact that he had been healed the people found it hard to believe. This contrasts with other occasions when the miracle was actually seen,
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
John 9:39
A reader writes: “A sister sends out a text each day on the Bible readings. Today she had questions, and I thought you would be a good resource... 'Can anyone explain the seeming contradiction of John 9:39 and John 12:47?' … I have come to rely on your comments in the daily Bible Readings. The depth of your answers and references shows how hard you have worked to study and show yourself approved… I look forward to your response…"
My reply: In John 3:17,18, we read that God did not send His Son to condemn (<2919>, krino) the world, but to save it (cf. John 3:16). Then in v. 18, not to be omitted, he goes on to say that there is no condemnation to those who believe in him. Even without Scripture verification, we may still deduce that those who don’t will be condemned (John 5:22,24).
In John 12:47, as above, deals with unbelievers who refuse to see and hear and follow Jesus as his disciples. Jesus said he does not judge (<2919>, krino) them. They already live under condemnation. He came to save those who would accept him (cf. John 3:3, and vv. 44-50).
In John 9:39, we read that Jesus came for judgment (<2917>, krima) against those who think they see, yet are spiritually blind. Jesus was specifically referring to the Pharisees (vv. 15,34,35,40,41). The Pharisees claimed to see, but were blind. They claimed to follow Moses (John 9:28; cf. Matt 23:2), but in reality did not (Matt 23:3 cf. v. 1), and never accepted Jesus as the Messiah and, therefore, they will be judged to condemnation. Furthermore, Jesus will judge the nations at his Second Coming (Matt 25:31,32).
Christ’s mission was to save as many as he could. It was the purpose of his First Coming. This he did in lovingly teaching the words of eternal life, but this did not exclude the inevitable - that it is only to those who accept him will be accepted by him (John 1:12).
It is about accountability and responsibility. It is important to compare Scripture with Scripture, and do so in context! John 9:39 and John 12:47 were spoken in different contexts. They do not contradict each other.
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Valerie
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
10:33-36 “The Jews answered him, ‘For a good work we do not stone you, but for blasphemy; and because you, being a man, make yourself out to be God’.
Jesus answered them ‘If he called them gods to whom the word of God came … do you say of him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world ‘You are blaspheming’ because I said, I am the son of God’?”
When Jesus was accused of claiming that he was God, he corrected his accusers by claiming
Bruce Bates [Forbes Australia] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Bruce
HOW TO BE A GOD
If you are going to be a god, act like one.
Speaking to the Jews, Jesus reminded them that God wrote in their law, “I said, you are gods.” (John 10:34). God called the rulers of his people, gods. They had been given power and authority over God’s people to look after them on behalf of God himself. They were the people the rest of us would look to when we needed to see or to hear from God.
Jesus took the quote he used from Psalm 82, which gives us a picture of God presiding over a board meeting with his executive council. “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgement.” (Psa 82:1). But God’s councillors were not doing their job properly. Listen to what God says as he addresses his councillors:
“How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Give justice to the weak and fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” (Psa 82:3-4). Those were the things they were not doing. They were not acting like the gods they were supposed to be. They were not representing God like they should have been doing. They were acting like selfish, power hungry and evil men.
Because they were not acting as they should, God decreed, “I said, ‘You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince.’” (Psa 82:7).
God’s councillors were not living up to their responsibilities, so their high position as ‘gods’ was to be taken away and they were to die as men in the carnage of battle.
We too can be gods. How do we become gods? Don’t do what they did. Instead, listen to the Most High God, judge justly, be impartial, care for others – especially for the weak, and rescue those who are oppressed by wickedness. When we act like gods, we will not die like men. When we act like gods, we will live with God for ever.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Robert
9:29 the way that the Jews “knew not” Jesus’ origins was a sad admission that they did not believe he was Messiah despite the miracles that he performed.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
John 9:11 the man born blind reports that Jesus had said to him:-
“Go to the pool of Siloam, and wash: and I went and washed, and I received sight”
The EXACT Greek for ‘I received sight’ only appears in one other place (although translated slightly differently in English)
Acts 22:13 Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
Directed to link the two scriptures in this way we might be encouraged to think of John 9 as a parable of the life of Paul, a man born spiritually blind to the truth of the Gospel. In order for Paul to see, he has to made literally blind, by the light of Jesus before he can have his sight restored and appreciate the gospel.
Examples, but please add more.
Paul and the man were both blind
Both receive their sight
Both Paul and the man are spoken to by Jesus
Both were told to wash
Both were ‘sent’ (apostle word)
Jesus sends the man to wash
Paul was sent to the Gentiles (apostle)
3 times the man was asked how he was healed
3 times Paul tells of his Damascus Road experience
Simon Foster [London South] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Simon