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16 v. 2 - I must reflect on how many times I too have been a miserable comforter. What is that makes us think we have the freedom to judge others according to their sins, when we are equally sinful but we can't see it? This is clearly wrong and yet we do it all the time. Perhaps our reflections on Job's situation and suffering at the hands of his friends will make us stop and think.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
Job 16
Job now answers again.
16:1-5 The 'comfort' that he has been hearing has been of no benefit at all. Job responds that he would have been a better comforter if his friends had been in his place and he in theirs.
Job 17
Job continues his speech.
17:1-9 Righteous men would be astonished at what they saw looking at me.
17:10 But you friends are not affected by my grief.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
ch.17 - Job is very depressed in this chapter. It is mainly the effect of the words of his friends, though doubtless fuelled by his circumstances. Let us be aware of how low a man of God can get when we are in a position to help and encourage, and be sure that unlike Job's friends, that is just what we do.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
16:6 We all know that if we speak with friends about our problems they seem smaller. However Job did not find this - so we realise that the way that we listen to those with griefs affects the well being of the one afflicted.
Job 17 - Job is in great despair. Notice how often he mentions the grave and death :1 13 14 16.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
16:10 So Job sees his friends 'help' as a smack on the cheek! He sees them, also, as 'against' him. They truly had failed Job.
17:10 So Job, sinking further into despair, feels that none of his friends are wise enough to help him - he is 'wise', though, as Eliphaz had told him so (15:2)
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
JOB 16 & 17. Job’s reply to Eliphaz’s second speech falls into these four divisions:
16:1-5. Job rejects his friends’ advice.
16:6-17. God’s treatment of Job; its character.
16:18-17:9. Job’s desperation; his desire to meet God.
17:10-16. Job’s refusal to accept false hopes of recovery; death draws near.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to John
ch 16 - IF YOU WERE IN MY PLACE
There is an old proverb that says, Before you criticise someone, walk a mile in their shoes. It is so easy to look in from the outside and to criticise the actions of other people without really knowing what is happening in their life that causes them to act in the way they do. Often, if we could experience the problems and trials of the people around us, we would be much more compassionate to them.
Job's friends were in that position. They could see that he was in distress, but had no idea what he was going through. They were trying to get him to snap out of it, confess his sin and get on with life. But Job realised that they didn't understand. He said, I also could speak like you, if you were in my place; I could make fine speeches against you and shake my head at you. (Job 16:4)
Before we criticise we need to experience what it would be like to be in the place of the person we attack. We need to have walked a mile in their shoes. Then we will know how it feels. Then we will have compassion instead of criticism. Let's be more like Job, who continued by saying, But my mouth would encourage you, comfort from my lips would bring you relief.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Robert
ch 17 - LIGHT AND DARK
Though all the evidence points against it, someone will try to convince us that the Earth is flat. There are those who, if they could, would persuade us that dark is light and light is dark. In a similar way I knew someone some years ago who believed, and tried to convince us all, that it takes three people to have an argument. Most of us do not find these sort of challenges too difficult to face. We believe we know the truth about these basic facts and have enough proof to at least be convinced ourselves of the right answer.
In a much more subtle way we will all face challenges to our faith in God and in his word. But where the difference between light and dark comes as second nature to us because we are so familiar with it, challenges to our faith can seem less clear cut. Most often it is not because they are not clear cut, but rather that we are not familiar enough with God's word to know the difference between right and wrong. And more certain than having someone challenge us on whether the earth is flat or not, we can be sure that we will face many more challenges to our faith, because so many more people want to challenge us about it.
Job's friends challenged him in this way but Job stood firm because he knew the truth. He said about them, "These men turn night into day; in the face of darkness they say, 'Light is near.'" (Job 17:12)
Let us not be caught out but be sure enough about our faith to know the difference between light and dark.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Robert
Job's words in Job 16:2 seem to summarise the effect his three friends have had on him: "Miserable comforters are ye all." It's never easy to counsel, or even cheer up, someone who has sunk as low as
Job had. But we must learn at least one lesson from each chapter in Job, and today's lesson could be,
"Let's see the good even in the worst scenario, and let's try to encourage, rather than condemn."
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to David
16:16 "shadow of death" Job here refers to Zophar's charge (11:14) Nearly the same words occur as to Jesus Christ (Isa 53:9)
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to John
Job maintains his innocence (16:17). He does this in the face of his friends' accusations that his condition is punishment for sin he must have committed. Job tells his friends that if he were in their place, he would comfort rather than condemn (16:2-5). This should be our position under such circumstances. Although Job is convinced that he is faultless, he is resigned to death (17:14,15). It seems that the faith in his maker does not extend to a reversal of his fortune. We must be careful not to limit the LORD's power, even when conditions look the blackest. For encouragement, we do well to review examples from the scriptures were the LORD reversed (seemingly) hopeless situations. One such example is the sudden, unexpected relief from the devastating three-year siege of Samaria (2Kin 7).
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to Michael
16:7 Having suffered at the hand of God Job says he is now suffering at the hand of his ‘comforters’.
17:3 Job, by using the idea of striking hands is saying that whilst his friend have come to speak with him they do not want to associate themselves with his problems.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
17:1,13 Job, in his depression, sees death as the solution to his problems.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
16:2 ‘Miserable comforters’ is the final straw in Job’s response. How often do we think we are helping with our words when we are really destroying the brother or sister we are trying to help!
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
17:9 Job is describing himself as righteous. The Hebrew word for righteous, here, is tsadeek (Strong’s H6662). Tsadeek refers to a just, lawful, and righteous man. That is how Job sees himself. Compare this description of righteous with that of Eliphaz’ in describing Job (15:14). The word for righteous, in this case, tsadak (Strong’s H6663), comes from the same root word as tsadeek, but has the connotation of being self-righteous. That is how Eliphaz sees Job.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Michael
16:1-14 Having made the point in verse 10 that his friends had smitten him he continues by speaking of how God has dealt with him. He sees no help from anywhere.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
16:3 "what emboldens thee ..." indicates that Job did not think that Eliphaz was even qualified to comment!
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
Job 16:1-5 - Job reproves his comforters: V2 - "miserable" [Heb. "amal" (5999)] is a response to Eliphaz noting "mischief" [(5999) referenced in Job 15:35] - Job's friends were "comforting" him with trouble; V2-5 - Job hurls back the taunts of Eliphaz (Job 15:2-6); V5 & (Job 15:6) - Job would comfort not condemn with his "mouth" and "lips".
Job 16:6-17 - God's treatment of Job results in his being despondent: V6 - Job's complaining is not the reason God is afflicting him (Job 15:5-6;Job 9:27-28); V9 - Job feels hated/forsaken and perhaps there is an echo of the crucifixion with God's sharp teeth tearing at him (Psa 22:1,16); V9-14 - Job suggests to Eliphaz (Job 15:13) that he was not hostile to God but that God was hostile to him; V10 - "gaped" [Heb. "paar" (6473)] and "mouth" [Heb. "peh" (6310)] perhaps echoes what Christ endured (Psa 22:13), "smitten" [Heb. "nakah" (5221)] and "cheek" [Heb. "lechiy" (3895)]perhaps echoes what Christ endured (Isa 53:4;Luke 22:64), reproach [Heb. "cherpah" (2781)] echoes how Christ was viewed (Psa 69:7,9), both Job and Christ were mocked and abused (Isa 52:14;53:3), conspiracy around Job and Christ to do them harm (Matt 26:4;John 11:53); V11 - God allowing Job and Christ delivered to those with evil intent (Gen 22:8;Psa 22:1,16;Matt 26:39); V13 - "poureth out" similarity with Job and Christ (Isa 53:12;Matt 26:28;John 19:34); V15 - "sackcloth" perhaps suggests mourning or repentance, "horn in the dust" perhaps suggests his strength was almost as if he died; V16 - "face is full with weeping" (Luke 22:44); V17 - no injustice/violence and his prayer was pure [Heb. "zak" (2134) meaning "pure"] though he didn't claim overall purity as suggested by Bildad(Job 8:6), perhaps reminds of Christ (Isa 53:9;Heb 5:7-8).
Job 16:18-21 - Job has hope from above: V19 - hope from heaven; V20 - appeals to God; V21 - "plead" [Heb. "yakach" (3198) means "daysman, judge, to prove", etc.] perhaps refers to the daysman to be provided by God (Job 9:33;1John 2:1;Heb 9:24) or directly appealing to God.
Job 16:22 -17:2 - despondency as a humiliating death awaits: V22 - headed for death; V1 - "breath" [Heb. "ruach" (7307) means "breath, exhalation, wind, blast, energy, spirit, life, tempest", etc], the grave awaits; V2 - Job and Jesus were mocked (Job 16:20;Matt 27:31).
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Charles
Job 17:3-9 - appeal to God as man does not care: V4 - God has deprived Job's friends of the ability to understand (this doesn't sit well with Bildad Job 18:3); V6 - "byword" and "tabret" is Messianic language (Job 30:10;Isa 50:6); V8 - the upright side against the ungodly - a jab at Job's friends who side against him; V9 - Job determined to be righteous.
Job 17:10-16 - despondency and the insensitivity of friends as death approaches: V11 - expectation of an early death; V12 - man inverting truth (Isa 5:20); V13 - Job hopes for the "grave" [Heb. "sheol" (7585) means "grave, pit, hell"] - would Job hope for "sheol" if it was a place of eternal torment? V14 - Job accepts his fate as one might accept relatives; V15 - where is hope? V16 - "pit" [Heb. "sheol" (7585)], rest/death in the dust (hope of being awakened Job 14:13-15).
Charles Link, Jr. [Moorestown, (NJ, USA)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Charles
16:3 So Job considers Eliphaz’ words as ‘vain’. Doubtless Eliphaz thought his words were the most powerful words of wisdom! Do we measure what we say before we speak? Or are we so sure that what we are saying is right that we do not need to check what we are saying?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
16:11 Job sees God’s hand at work in his experiences. He sees his friends as the “wicked” and the “ungodly”.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
In these passages Job makes it sound as though when he dies, that will be it - i.e. no hope of a resurrection or a future life beyond the grave. But at other times, he appears to have a very opposite outlook - appearing to believe in a resurrection from the dead. See Job 14:13-15; Job 19:25-27. So what is the truth about what he really believed?
Job is one of those books where if you're looking for neat, sequential, orderly reasoning within the speeches of all the human participants, you've come to the wrong place. Job is back and forth, up and down in his dialogue - at times saying what is absolutely, without a doubt true, while at other times being way too pointed in his criticism of and questioning of God's integrity and right to exercise it in any way He chooses to. This "flip flop" aspect (for lack of a better term) can be seen in the various things he states as mentioned in my question.
The references to his absolute belief in a resurrection in the future is undeniable. But that doesn't mean that he didn't have down times where he longed to be put out of his misery. Also there's the idea inherent in his statements in ch. 16 & 17 that he wouldn't want to be raised from the dead - in his current age - to a continued state of what he was experiencing at that point in time. Added to this depression was his inability to penetrate the "canned" arguments of the three. And the more they missed the point in their statements, the more Job "got his back up", and this fact must have intensified his miseries. If I were in Job's shoes and making the best arguments I knew how to make - and they are not only sloughed off but are coupled with false allegations about my character - all of this along the incessant pain and loss I'm feeling for my family and all that I had would likely have made my views somewhat erratic as well.
The New Testament incident that seems to me to match up well with Job and his mental conflict is the one recorded in Mark 9:16-27 where Jesus heals the boy with the evil spirit (probably the disease epilepsy). The boy's father is asked by Jesus how long he'd been like this, and the dad says, "it has often thrown him into fire or water to kill him. But if you can do anything, take pity on us and help us." Jesus said, "If you can, everything is possible for him who believes."And Mark records his answer - "I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!" What sounds so self-contradictory was actually a genuine truthful confession. He wanted to believe, and he needed Jesus' help to make that partial incomplete belief into true faith. And a loving and compassionate Jesus accepts this and responds to his request by healing his son. I get the feeling with Job that he too is wanting to believe all that he had learned and at one time and had truly believed, but was having a hard time doing it completely due to his ongoing sorrow and pain and frustration. God, like Jesus, will eventually show His mercy to him but only after he comes to his senses, confesses his sins, and shows the abject humility that had left him during his trials.
Wes Booker [South Austin Texas USA] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Wes
16:4-5 Here we see Job making it very clear that his friend’s comments are unhelpful. He makes the point that he would actually strengthen hem. However he does not explain how he would do that.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
The main point that Job makes once again, is that his friends are doing nothing to help him. This is rather central to the whole story, because it was to mourn with him and comfort him that they initially came to him. Job is trying to make the point that, whether or not their words might be wise and eloquent, their words are simply not comforting to him. Given that he is a man in desperate sorrow, that ought to have been uppermost in their minds:
"I have heard many such things: miserable comforters are ye all. Shall vain words have an end? or what emboldeneth thee that thou answerest? I also could speak as ye do: if your soul were in my soul's stead, I could heap up words against you, and shake mine head at you. But I would strengthen you with my mouth, and the moving of my lips should assuage your grief."
Job 16:2-5 KJV
It speaks of a focus that was entirely wrong with the three friends, and this focus uncovered underlying problems in their understanding of God. Their focus was on proving Job wrong, and in correcting him. It pointed to their underlying incorrect understanding of God as someone who immediately treats people according to their righteousness. For example:
"The wicked man travaileth with pain all his days, and the number of years is hidden to the oppressor. A dreadful sound is in his ears: in prosperity the destroyer shall come upon him." Job 15:20-21
This statement simply isn't being honest about what we see around us. We don't see only the righteous prospering and the wicked in pain. The implication of Eliphaz's words here are that Job is afflicted because of his sin. Notice the wording "in prosperity the destroyer shall come upon him", which is exactly what had happened to Job. So Eliphaz is by implication accusing Job of wickedness and oppression, and misrepresenting God into the bargain.
When someone is ill or troubled, it's ok not to have any answers. God's dealings with mankind are intricate, and it's ok to admit we don't understand. It is far more honest to do this than simplify God's dealings into a single rule when it is clear that this rule doesn't apply. In contrast, Jeremiah had a more honest and humble approach:
"Righteous art thou, O Lord, when I plead with thee: yet let me talk with thee of thy judgments: Wherefore doth the way of the wicked prosper? wherefore are all they happy that deal very treacherously?" Jer 12:1
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Rob
16:16There are six different speeches of Job in which he speaks of the “Shadow of death” – here is a list Job 3:5, 10:21, 12:22, 16:16, 24:17, 28:3 . Eliphaz picks up on Job’s use of the phrase in Job 34:22 and finally God challenges Job’s use of it – Job 38:17
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
16:7,9 The “He” is God. Job sees his problems as part of God working in his life. But he then sees his friends making things worse. The “thou” speaks of his friends who are speaking with him.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
16:2 “Miserable comforters” maybe catches what he had already said – Job 12:16-17.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
17:13-16 Notice the repeated use of words relating to the grave Job uses. He is really depressed at this point – and his friends have been no help.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
16:17 Whilst God did describe Job in a very positive way – Job 1:1 - it is unwise to appeal to one’s righteousness as a basis for anything. We should learn from this.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
17:2 Add to the physical suffering that Job was enduring the mocking of those who had been his friends. Whilst we can often cope with physical hardship it is far more difficult to deal with life when we find that our friends are alienated from us. Job was looking for support from his friends, only to be disappointed. One would hope we never behave like his “friends” when we see a fellow believer in difficulty
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
17:2 when we realise that Job is calling his friends “mockers” we should remember that they came to “comfort” Job – Job 2:11 – so seriously had the relationship broken down that the purpose of the visit is lost in recriminations
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
17:2 when we realise that Job is calling his friends “mockers” we should remember that they came to “comfort” Job – 2:11 – so seriously had the relationship broken down that the purpose of the visit is lost in recriminations
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
16:2 Job’s friends doubtless had come to try and help Job. However it is the repeated observations that tried to tell Job where he had gone wrong which gave Job no comfort. We should always think carefully how we might speak with one who is in need of comfort. It is all too easy to assume that we know the answers. Rather we should try and understand the person’s problem by listening.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
16:2 “,miserable” could be translated “troublesome”. Job does not just see his “friends” as of little value to him. He sees them as actually undermining his confidence in God.
Are our “helpful” words ever damaging to the one we are seeking to help?
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
17:2 could we ever be called “mockers” by those we are trying to help? Clearly the motivation to help is no guarantee of success or even being accepted as helpful. Care is needed on our part in such circumstances.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
v.6 - We too are privileged to have been in this position - the 'nations' have been driven from us and we stand separated to the work of God (Deut.32:8).
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
The psalm in chapter 3, for that is what it is, draws on earlier language and events. 'God came from Teman' catches aspects of the wilderness journey. Your marginal references will highlight other areas which are being utilised.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
This chapter is a prayer, and like all prayers recorded in scripture is full of praise for God in His great works of creation and the things that He does on behalf of those who love Him and do His commandments.
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
3:17-19 And here the prophet demonstrates his confidence in God, even though he has had difficulties with the way that he works. Habakkuk realises that even though Judah will be spoiled by the Chaldeans he will still trust God. Are we willing to, with Job, for example, trust God even if He were to kill us (Job 13:15)
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
3:8 'ride', 'horses', 'chariots' specifically catches the language of the Exodus - Exodus 15:1,3
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
3:11,13 'The sun stood still' and 'the neck' draw on language from Josh 10:13,24 showing that Habakkuk is looking for deliverance from the enemy in the same way that Joshua was delivered when he entered the land.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
V.18 In the past, the servants of God have found joy when contemplating the salvation which has been promised to all them who serve God in Truth. The word "joy" GIYL (1523) used here means to "shout for joy" has a rare use in Scripture. The only other place it is used is found in Isa 35:2 where it is combined with singing.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to John
Habakkuk's prophecy essentially has to do with Judah and the Babylonians. However, it does have a double application which concerns the liberation of Israel in the end times (v.13). Actually, Ch. 3 is a shiggaion psalm like that of Psalm 7. The shigionoth (pl.) definition is obscure, but Louis Segond translates it in his French bible as complaintes meaning laments. We can consider them as mournful odes. There is good reason to think that the judgement will be at Sinai (Mt. Paran v.3; Deut 33:2). Those accepted by Christ (now immortalised saints) will make their way north (to Jerusalem) crushing, as they go, Gog and its confederates who have invaded the land (v.12; Eze 38). One member of the confederacy is Ethiopia (actually, present-day Sudan) (Eze 38:5), the Cushan (Cush) mentioned in v.7. The image of Christ and the saints on the march from the south is also reflected in Isaiah (Isa 63:1). The final destruction of Gog will be on the mountains of Jerusalem (Eze 39:4; Zech 12:9). For a progression of these events, e-mail me for the brief overview The Return of Christ and End-time Prophecy.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to Michael
This final chapter of Habakkuk is a prayer, or song. It speaks of the greatness of Almighty God. Hab 3:17,18 are quite remarkable verses. Even though totally everything goes wrong in my life, says the prophet, if I’ve got no food, no drink and no future provision, yet I will still trust in the Lord. What faith!
David Simpson [Worcester (UK)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to David
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
3:19 ‘and he will make … high places’ quotes Psa 18:33 showing that Habakkuk had the same confidence that David had in his God at the end of his life, after all his trial.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
3:2 ‘I have heard thy speech … revive thy work …’ shows that by this point in his ministry Habakkuk has come to at least accept that God will use the Chaldeans even if he still has not yet grasped fully the character of God and how He works. His ways are not our ways (Isa 55:8) and we should understand this.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
3:3 In saying ‘God came from Teman’ the prophet is reminding his hearers of an earlier event – Deut 33:2 – speaking of God marching from Sinai to take possession of His land, appealed to in Judg 5:4. The guarantee that He will work in the future is based upon that fact that He has done so in the past.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
PATIENCE IN THE LAST DAYS
We know what God has planned for us and for the earth. One of these days Jesus will return. He will judge all the people of the world and set up God's kingdom, an everlasting kingdom over the whole earth. But before all that happens, injustice will get worse and worse. So will violence and immorality. More and more people will turn away from God, having a faith that is shallow and only lasts a short time. Daniel describes this period of time as "a time of distress such as has not happened since the beginning of nations until then." (Dan 12:1)
Habakkuk lived in similar times and the thought of the times he lived in and of what God was going to do made him lose all his strength. He said, "I have heard and my heart pounded, my lips quivered at the sound; decay crept into my bones, and my legs trembled." (Hab 3:16)
As we go through the last days we might feel the same. But if we do, let's not give up. Take special note of the next words of Habakkuk: "Yet I will wait patiently for he day of calamity to come on the nations invading us." (v.16)
Like Habakkuk, we need to wait patiently for the day of the LORD. We are so close - let's not give up! The worse things get, the closer we know we are to he return of Christ. So let's see the trouble that is to come as something to strengthen our faith, not something that might destroy it. God has said it will happen. As we see it fulfilled, let's patiently wait for our salvation.
Robert Prins [Auckland - Pakuranga - (NZ)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Robert
3:17 Having learnt that God will use the Chaldeans to afflict Judah – Hab 1:6 – the prophet is content to accept what God has said. He specifically mentions elements of devastation that would come when the Chaldeans attacked Judah. Jeremiah, who spoke to Judah at the time of the Chaldean invasions quotes in Jer 8:13 the very language of Habakkuk here.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
3:18 In this chapter the prophet reflects upon various events in Israel’s past when God worked for His people. In saying that he will ‘joy in the God of my salvation’ he is harking back to the deliverance of Israel from Egypt – Exo 15:2
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
3:19 In quoting Deut 33:29 “tread upon the high places” Habakkuk takes comfort from the fact that God is going to establish His people. Deuteronomy was spoken to a people who were about to, after a period of privation, enter into God’s promised land.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
3:2 In Hab 1:2-4the prophet laments that God has not intervened to punish the wicked but now, realising that God is going to intervene, the prophet pleads with God to show mercy. He is now more merciful that he appears to have been when the prophecy starts.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
3:14 ‘villages’ in the verse is alternatively translated ‘warriors’ in the RV. If this translation is correct we see an echo of the death of Sisera – Judg 4:21
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
Teman
v3: Teman was a chief of the people of Esau, Jacob's brother (Gen 36:15). Eliphaz, Job's friend was a Temanite (Job 2:11).
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Rob
3:9 Habakkuk, in this chapter, reflects on what God has done in the past. In speaking of the cleaving of the rivers he is saying the sort of thing we see in Psa 105:41
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
Holy one. Some believe this is speaking about God coming forth. The word God is ELOHA meaning mighty one however it is talking about Christ and the saints joined in one mind and purpose. See Hab 1:12.Dan 2:44Hab 3:13
Man and woman are described as becoming one in nature but also in mind, as Christ and his bride will be one in mind and nature.
Hab 3:4 Horns = saints. Hand = side. As Eve came from Adams side, as Christ was pierced in his side for his bride.
Hiding of his power. Glory will be concealed while judgment takes place. Roth. Translates. as a hiding place or veil. So while Christ judges and prepares his saints and as they advance the nations wont see the glory just yet. see my notes on Zech 14.
There will be a period of time some say 40years before glorified saints are revealed to the world. 40 days pentecost may support thsi idea??
Light.. John 8:12 Christ was word made flesh light of the world because light was in him.
Though the heavens and firmanent are a wonderful creation it is Christ and saints that will reveal Gods Glory and should reveive praise. Psa 19:1
stephen cox [Sedgley UK] Comment added in 2015 Reply to stephen
3:5 The mention of “burning coals” echoes the way in which David speaks – Psa 18:8 – of the way in which God had delivered him from his enemies.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
3:13 The word “Selah” is part of the original inspired text. Its meaning is seen when it is used – Job 28:19 – where the Hebrew word <5541> is translated “valued”. This word is related to the word translated Selah repeatedly in Scripture
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
3:2 Habakkuk’s prayer “revive thy work …” shows that now Habakkuk understood what God was doing. He now calls upon God to do what he has already said –Hab 1:5-6 - He will do.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
3:5 “Cushan” is the Biblical Ethiopia
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
“God came from Teman, and the Holy One from Mount Paran…”
It is interesting that Christ and his saints will originate from Teman in subjugating the nations at his Second Coming. It is the same area where Job and his friends lived (cf. notes on Job 1:1)!
“…the Mountain of God, Mt. Horeb, Mt. Sinai and Mt. Paran are all names for Mt. Sinai, and Mt. Seir is important for determining the location of Mt. Sinai…Gebel Khashm et-Tarif, a mountain explored by the Associates for Biblical Research in 2007. Located ca. 22 miles west-northwest of the northern end of the Gulf of Aqaba/Elat, it is the only site thus far proposed that meets all of the Biblical requirements for Mt. Sinai.”
Mount Sinai is not and was not located in Israel, as evidenced by the very fact that once Israel received the Ten Commandments at the foot of Mount Sinai, they had to keep travelling to the land they were to inherit. Unlike the Jewish teaching taken from their Talmud, no synagogue that ever existed, let alone Mount Sinai, will be miraculously transported to Israel when Messiah returns; this is a Jewish fable, (cf. Titus 1:14).
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4021233/jewish/Where-Is-Mount-Sinai.htm/
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Valerie
The chariots are related to the cherubim (Ezekiel 1) which outwork God's purpose (2 Kings 6:17). The cherubim moves as fast as lightning (Ezekiel1:13,14), burning up the old air, bringing in the new. In like manner, our Lord will manifest himself to the world (Matthew 24:27). The earthquake he will trigger (Zech 14:5) is reflected in Hab 3:6,10 and will cause new rivers to be formed (Ezek 47; Joel 3:18). What a time! When the Lord will take over management of the earth that he had once entrusted to man and woman (Genesis 1:26).
Beulah Edwards [Christchurch West New Zealand] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Beulah
3:12 the idea that God would “thresh” nations is a fairly common expression in scripture. We see a similar idea in Mic 3:12, for example
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
3:2 In asking “in wrath remember mercy” Habakkuk is aware of the character of Yahweh. The gods of the nations were often presented at angry and vengeful but Yahweh is different. Whilst He brings judgment and punishment on the wicked His also a merciful God. For that reason, despite the fact that men and women deserve to die He gave His only son Jesus. A wonderful act of mercy that we might receive forgiveness for our sins.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
3:1-17 The prophet’s prayer is full of reflections on what God did for His people in the past. We might ask “Does God need to be reminded of what he has done?” The answer is that he does not need to be reminded, but we do. It is only through reflecting on what God has done in the past that we will have confidence about future events when life seems difficult and challenging.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
3:13 Wounding the head takes one’s mind back to the destruction of the seed of the serpent in Gen 3:15 – ultimately looking past the destruction of death by Jesus Christ.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
3:19 Whilst the quotation from 32:29 speaks of God waling on the high places Habakkuk appropriates the words to himself “he will make my feet …”. This is how we can view our position in relation to the troubles we see in the world if we have made Him our trust, relying on the resurrection of Jesus as the basis for our righteousness
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
2 v. 4 - The message is clear, even we don't understand the means to the end. Everyone, surely that is a messenger of God's message can be referred to as an angel in this context - this makes the idea of an angel sinning perfectly feasible, and fits with the context of the chapter which refers to false teachers. Those who have oversight of the flock are referred to as angels (e.g. the angels of the churches in Rev. 2 and 3)
Peter [UK] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
Transfiguration 2 Peter 1 Links
The transfiguration of Jesus is the basis for much of what Peter has to say in 2 Peter 1. There are a number of quotations from and allusion to the event.
Phrase or word 2 Peter Gospel
This is my beloved son 2 Peter 1:17 Matthew 17:5 in whom I am well pleased
Tabernacle 2 Peter 1:13,14 Matthew 17:4
Decease 2 Peter 1:15 Luke 9:31
the holy mount 2 Peter 1:18 Matthew 17:1
his majesty 2 Peter 1:16 Matthew 17:2
We heard 2 Peter 1:18 Matthew 17:6
Eyewitnesses 2 Peter 1:16 Matthew 17:3
Coming of our Lord 2 Peter 1:16 Matthew 17:9
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2001 Reply to Peter
1:20-21 Whilst it may be that we use this passage to prove that Scripture is inspired Peter had another reason for making this point. He says that there is a relationship between the inspiration of Scripture and it's interpretation. Because it is inspired we cannot interpret as we wish. Putting it another way the fact that Scripture is inspired means that we have to let it interpret itself by reference to it's different parts.
2:8-9 When Lot was in Sodom he was troubled by what he saw. He doubtless thought that there was no escape from the circumstances. Peter's language 'the Lord knoweth how to deliver …' is a wonderful comfort. The way in which He delivered Lot was doubtless most unexpected by Lot - but he was delivered.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2002 Reply to Peter
1:17 'Honour' and 'Glory' are quoted from Prov 4:8-9
1:19 'until … arise' is quoted from Prov 4:18
The obtaining of wisdom - the focus of the early part of the chapter - guides us to the 'perfect day' Notice that Peter says that Scripture is 'more sure' than his being an eyewitness of the transfiguration. So Peter is telling us that wisdom that is obtained from the Word of God is more valuable than personal experience.
2:15 'wages of unrighteousness' quotes Numbers 22:7. Peter uses the same quotation (Acts 1:18) when speaking of Judas. Those he speaks of in this letter, therefore, must have seen that he was describing them as being like Judas who betrayed his Lord.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2003 Reply to Peter
1:15 Peter's concern for how the brethren would be after his 'decease' echoes Moses (Deut 31:29) and Paul (Acts 20:29)
2:17 There are a number of similar ideas between 2 Peter and Jude. 'without water' is one. Here it is 'wells'. Jude has clouds (Jude 1:12)
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2004 Reply to Peter
Throughout this epistle Peter urges the readers to increase their knowledge or recognition of the Lord Jesus Christ (2Pet 1:8, 2Pet 2:20, 2Pet 3:18). This is Peters main concern in the writing of the epistle. He begins with a prayerful wish for grace and peace through the knowledge of God and of Jesus Christ. He concludes his letter with an exhortation to "grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior".
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2005 Reply to John
1:4 Do we think that we have ‘escaped the corruption that is in the world’? We can only say that this is true in our lives if we have forsaken ‘lust’. Of course this is not just a sexual matter. How often have you wanted something that you did not need?
2:12 Korah and company questioned the authority of Moses – Num 16:3 – ‘speaking evil’. However they did not understand what God had ordained. In like manner the self willed amongst us run the risk of responding to situations inappropriately simply through not taken the time to know what is best, being self centered.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to Peter
2:1 Peter, like Paul (Acts 20:28-30) warned the believers in the 1st. century of the false doctrine that would enter into the ecclesia, it did not take long, for in Jude 1:4 we read that there are those at this time that that deny or reject Christ.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2006 Reply to John
1:15 In saying ‘after my decease’ Peter is alluding to Moses’ last charge to Israel – Deut 31:29 Moses was warning Israel of the dangers of apostasy that would follow. Peter, likewise, is doing the same.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to Peter
2:5 We have here an exhortation for all true believers; as God provided protection for Noah and his family, so He will protect believers who remain faithful to the teaching of their absent King.
John Wilson [Toronto West (Can)] Comment added in 2007 Reply to John
2:1 In reality the chapter division between chapters one and two is most unhelpful. At the end of the previous chapter Peter has emphasised the reliability of the prophets. Now he warns against ‘false prophets’. The two chapters are thematically connected.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Peter
2:7-8 shows Lot being vexed by the circumstances he was in, the two words translated vexed in these two verses are two different Greek words. The first in v7 means to be burdened down, to labour down, to wear down with toil, whereas the second vexed in v8 means to be tormented or tortured which shows how things had got worse for Lot and it tells us in v8 this greater torture was now day to day. Even with this great and continuous torment Lot was unable to get himself and his family out, he was too entangled in the city. Lot is a great example of the progression and danger of being entangled in the world (Gen 13:10-12 14:12 19:1 v10 'lifted up his eyes' (Gen 3:6, 1John 2:16), journeyed east away from Bethel (house of God) and past Ai (the ruin) eastwards, then he 'dwelled in the cities of the plain', then 'pitched his tent towards Sodom', then ch14v12 he 'dwelt in Sodom' and finally ch19v1 he 'sat in the gate of Sodom'. We must take action when we are affected by things around us, our vexing must lead to action before it is too late, to protect our loved ones and weak ones (Lot lost his wife and others in his family) Gen 42:1-2 ('why do ye look one upon another....get you down thither'), Josh 7:10,13 ('Get thee up; wherefore liest thou upon thy face?...Up sanctify the people'), Ezra 10:1,4 ('weeping and casting himself down...Arise...be of good courage and do it'). Joseph is example of how we need to deal with these situations Gen 39:10-12 notice Potiphar's wife spake to him 'day by day', she pressured him day by day, his response when she acted was v12 ''he left', 'and fled', 'got him out' (these phrases are repeated a number of times in this 39th chapter) . Paul exhorts us to be of the same mind 1Cor 6:18, 1Cor 10:14, 1Tim 6:11, 2Tim 2:22.
Pete Barrett [Milnsbridge UK] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Pete
2:8 notice the language Peter uses here vexed his righteous soul from day to day, the same language is recorded of Delilah's pressure on Samson (Judg 16:16) and shows to us how this wears down and its affect. The world pressures us each and every day to conform to what it wants if we compromise ourselves and allow it.
Pete Barrett [Milnsbridge UK] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Pete
1:7 Brotherly kindness (fraternal affection) is prescribed by Peter. It is the duty of each member of Christ’s household to take care of his/her brothers and sisters (physically and spiritually). The commentator Clarke puts it this way: Brotherly kindness - Φιλαδελφιανยท Love of the brotherhood - the strongest attachment to Christ’s flock; feeling each as a member of your own body. Therefore, one cannot separate him/herself from the community of believers. It is not possible to keep the commandments of Christ if one decides to isolate him/herself from brothers and sisters. Likewise, being present in the community but having a sterile existence is equally unacceptable. That is just isolation within the body. True believers of Jesus are called to be active participants within the body. That means making it one’s business to serve fellow members in any way possible. One will be judged on that issue (Matt 18:2-6).
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Michael
2:4 Angels are messengers of God. These can either be human or divine. As divine angles cannot sin and, therefore they cannot die. Those found acceptable at the judgment will be made immortal like the divine angels (Mark 12:25). Thus, the angels, in this verse, must be human agents. They will be subject to judgment (Jude 1:6) Moreover, the immortalised saints will judge those evil human angels (1Cor 6:3). By comparison with the human angels in 2:4, the angels in 2:11 must be divine angels.
Michael Parry [Montreal (Can)] Comment added in 2008 Reply to Michael
2:4 The ‘angels that sinned’ speaks of the rebellion of Korah Dathan and Abiram.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Peter
2Pet 1:10,11 First Principles>Kingdom of God>Gospel concerns God's Kingdom
The Gospel preached by Jesus and the Apostles concerns the Kingdom of God.
2. Invitation for men to participate
Matt 25:34, Luke 12:32, 1Thess 2:12, James 2:5, 2Tim 4:1,8, 2Pet 1:10,11, Rev 2:26,27
For more about the Gospel concerning God's Kingdom go to Matt 4:23
Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)] Comment added in 2009 Reply to Roger
2:20 The way in which Peter speaks of those who were once enlightened and who turned from God is very much like Israel who were saved from Egypt and yet died in the wilderness because of unbelief.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2010 Reply to Peter
1:20-21 The link between the matter of ‘no private interpretation’ and the scripture being given by ‘inspiration’ highlights the way in which we should approach Scripture. Because it is given by God we should not use our own reasoning to establish its meaning. It interprets itself by reference to its different parts.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Peter
v4 First Principles>Promises made to the Fathers
God has unfolded His purpose in the past by promises made at certain stages of human history. Peter calls them exceeding great and precious promises by which we might become partakers of the divine nature. The promises which God made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are an imprortant aspect of God's message to us.
To read more about these promises, go to Gen 12:2-7.
Roger Turner [Lichfield (UK)] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Roger
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.”
“Day star” is the Greek word, phosphoros, Strong’s # <5459>, and means “light-bearing." This end part of the verse actually reads: “…until its day dawn and a light-bearer rise in your hearts.” Peter is referring to the second coming of Christ, which was foreshadowed by his transfiguration on the mount (verses 16-18).
Peter likens the Word to a lamp that lights up a dark place (see 2Cor 4:6), and admonishes believers to feed upon the Word until the Light of the world, who is the morning star (Rev 2:28; 22:16) shines in our heart. In other words, the inner man must keep on studying and be flooded with the radiating light of Christ and at his return, this light in us will then be made complete (Cp. 1Cor 13:12 with 1John 3:2). If this light is not found radiating in us, what will Christ complete?
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Valerie
“Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; but was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet.”
2Pet 1 emphasizes the sufficiency of the inspired Scriptures and urges the saints to diligently pursue godly characters. Then in 2Pet 2, Peter turns from that which is truth to that which is false in contrasting the true and false prophets and their successors, the false teachers. These false heretical teachers would be found in the ecclesias (2Pet 2:1). They would bring reproach on the Truth, exploit the saints, and cause great harm to themselves and to those who follow them (verses 2-3). Peter describes these false teachers (verses 10-14) and compares them to Balaam (verses 15-16), and then shows the destructive impact on the followers (verses 17-22).
Peter warns: 1) False teachers are a certainty. 2) They are within not just without the ecclesias. 3) False teachers are open about their beliefs. 4) Rather than expose and expel the heretics, the saints gave them a platform to speak and thus their error subverted the faith of others.
Balaam could not see the danger he was in physically and spiritually, and in a metaphorical sense, this applies to many situations in life because we all have "blind spots." We don’t always know the dangers we face, and what we are getting ourselves, and possibly others, into. To Balaam, right became wrong; wrong became right (Isa 5:20)! He became totally insensitive and indifferent to God’s Word. Balaam's story is a story of disobedience and its consequences (Num 22:22-40; 31:8) from which we will not escape either if we fail to listen to God, fail to obey Him, and fail to take Him at His Word.
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2011 Reply to Valerie
1:19 Peter quotes Prov 4:18 which speaks of the “path of the just” journeying towards the kingdom of God. An apt way to speak of the effect of a careful regular reading of Scripture.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2012 Reply to Peter
1:7 We might have thought that “charity” is the same as “brotherly kindness”. However a little reflection will help us to understand that they are different. Brotherly kindness is the bond between family. Charity is something shown to those who are outside the family, even though we might be “charitable” to family members it is something in addition to that family feeling.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2013 Reply to Peter
2:6 We know that Sodom was destroyed because of the wickedness of the people who lived there. However God uses the fact that He destroyed Sodom as an ‘example’, as Peter says, here. We should learn from the way that God dealt with them.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Peter
Take the forbidden fruit or wait for your own to grow
2Pet 1:1-10 draws heavily on the Genesis 3 account of how mankind first sinned. It was lust that drove Eve to grasp the fruit which would give her wisdom, thinking by it she would obtain the Divine nature (2Pet 1:4, see Gen 3:6). Peter is telling us that the promise of the Divine nature is still open to us, but we obtain it not through lust, but by careful, daily, constant attention to growing in the characteristics God requires (v5-8). Here are the two opposing ways of life; characterised by Eve and Jesus. One had to have the nature of God immediately and disobeyed in order to have it right now. The other patiently waited for the character of God to grow within him through day-to-day study of his Father's word. When we consider our own daily walk, do we act more like Eve or like Jesus?
Rob de Jongh [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2014 Reply to Rob
1:16-19 Peter is speaking of being an eye witness of the transfiguration – Matt 17:1-6 – but notice that Peter says that the testimony of scripture is more reliable even than those things which he saw with his own eyes!
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2015 Reply to Peter
1:18-19 Peter’s comments about the testimony of scripture being more credible than his own eyewitness evidence is something that we read again – 1John 5:6 – albeit in a slightly different way.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
"A More Sure Word of Prophecy"
How do we know that the Scripture to be true? God has authenticated His Word by giving us the sign posts along the way by way of prophecy. That's what prophecy is all about. It's incredible that 95% of prophecies have been fulfilled with only a small part left to unfold and by this we know that His word is sure. By understanding prophecy we can be prepared for coming events. It is like a flashlight that God provides to guide us through the dark times we live in - so that we may see the future.. "a light that shineth in a dark place" (2 Peter 1:19)
Peter Dulis [toronto west] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Peter
Nick Kendall [In Isolation] Comment added in 2016 Reply to Nick
2:1 We should not be surprised when we hear false teaching. We should expect it. It is a feature of human nature that we seek ways different from those which God has taught. Our responsibility is to be aware of such possibilities first in ourselves and then in others, Having identified such tendencies both in ourselves and others we should faithfully attempt to correct those errors. Complacency is the way to personal disaster.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2017 Reply to Peter
1:2 We should not underestimate the comfort and peace of mind we have because we understand that God is in control of world affairs.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Peter
“Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure…”
“This is a time for diligence; it is not a state of things in which we can congratulate ourselves upon being safe. There is nobody safe; that is to say, nobody can say that they are saved until the day of selection comes, and they have been selected. They cannot judge themselves. Some people imagine that when they have believed the Gospel and been baptized, they have done all—that they have secured the prize. They have not secured the prize at all; they have but entered the lists for the competition to secure it. The attainment of it is contingent upon faithful stewardship; upon how we act in the position in which the Gospel has placed us. Christ comes forth to look at the company gathered as guests for the wedding, and makes his selection from amongst them upon the principle of faithfulness. So that instead of persons sitting down with folded arms the moment they come to believe the truth, they ought to realize increased incentive to diligence; for only those who are diligent will make their calling and election sure.” Brother Robert Roberts, SEASONS OF COMFORT, The Unsearchable Riches of Christ, p. 68
“How many of these will attain to the inheritance none can tell but God. The reward is His; the labour to obtain it with fear and trembling, ours.” Brother John Thomas, 1853
In 2Pet 1:5-7, Peter lists the qualities that believers are to add to their faith. Faith is the prerequisite on which we build Godly characteristics, and only if we do these things, shall we obtain entrance “into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” (v. 11). Salvation depends on having the qualities Peter lists, but these qualities are added to our faith, which is the first and foundational quality from which we grow. This is to be righteous, a righteousness, which is of faith (Rom 10:6). We read in James 2:22,23 that faith wrought works and works wrought by faith perfected faith! We are to be living testimonies of the power of God to change lives.
Being cleansed from our past sins does not automatically mean we will grow in knowledge, godliness, brotherly love and kindness, etc. Furthermore, if we do not possess these qualities in increasing measure, then we are spiritually myopic having forgotten our true identity in Christ (2Pet 1:8,9).
We are to produce holiness in all our manner of living (1Pet 1:15,16). Good works are important for believers, but if we merely itemize all our good works and feel assured we will be saved, we need to remember that works without the faith will not provide salvation. It is to pay merely lip service to Christ, and of this we may be assured. Paul emphasized that salvation is accomplished on the basis of grace, through faith. Good works, human effort, and our best intentions alone will never be enough to earn salvation, so we truly have nothing to boast about (Eph 2:8,9; cf. Matt 7:22,23).
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2018 Reply to Valerie
1:4 partaking of the divine nature returns to what Peter has already written about – 1Pet 4:1 – where he talks of the glory that will be revealed.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2019 Reply to Peter
2:4 the “darkness” here is quoted by Jude :6 -Peter is warning about forthcoming problems. Jude is saying, sometime alter, that the problems Peter had warned about had happened.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2020 Reply to Peter
1:4 Being a partaker of the divine nature was the driving force in Jesus. He looked forward to waking with God’s likeness – Psa 17:15– and to being with his Father – John 13:1.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Peter
“… Presumptuous are they, self-willed…
Presumptuousness is committed by those who recognize what they are doing is contrary to the Word, yet readily and willingly sin simply because we presume on a loving God’s mercy, grace, and forgiveness. Brother Robert Roberts defines it as: “It is a presumptuous use of reason to deduce a ‘sequence’ from one of the facts that is destructive of the other fact.” SEASONS OF COMFORT, Crotchets, p. 222. Presumptuous folks are heedless and reckless to what God commands (cf. Num 14:41-45). We read in Num 15:30 that those who, “doeth ought presumptuously… shall be cut off…” It is to “act proudly, presumptuously, rebelliously!” Hebrew and English Lexicon (Unabridged), Brown, Driver, Briggs, # 2596, p. 267. It is not to take God at His Word, but rather presume on His mercy and overlook, adjust, alter, or ignore His Word, altogether (cf. Num 15:32-40)! Although we are under the Covenant of Grace, this New Testament Covenant still contains the law (Rom 8:7; 1Cor 9:21), not to be abused.
We are to be obedient in all that has been delivered to us (Rom 1:5 Rom 16:26; 1Sam 15:22), and just because we are under the New Covenant terms of forgiveness by Grace, it does not mean or give us the liberty to decide the terms of moral principles and God’s precepts. In fact, the Bible is strictly against adding to or taking from the Word (Deut 4:2; Deut 12:32; Deut 17:10-13; Rev 22:18,19).
We must be so careful to know, understand, and do what God has commanded us (Deut 5:32,33; Josh 1:7; Josh 23:6), and not go beyond it (Num 22:18; Num 24:13). If Balaam could not go beyond what God commanded, ”to do less or more,” how can we presume to do so and still be in obedience to God?
God’s moral laws remain because He does not change. God’s Word is unalterable, otherwise, how could it be preserved if we subject it to alteration (Prov 30:5,6)? Jesus said, “Remember the word that I said unto you. The servant is not greater than his Lord… if they have kept my saying, they will keep your’s (God’s) also (John 15:20).
God expects us to respect His Word in both the Old and New Covenants. To add or take away from God’s commands is an expression of our irreverence and rebelliousness against Him. God has repeatedly and clearly stated the immutability of His Word and of our strict adherence to it (Mal 3:6; Matt 24:35; Mark 13:31; 1Pet 1:23,25; Deut 5:32,33; 2Kin 22:2; Prov 4:26,27; Luke 11:28; John 14:15; 1John 5:2,3).
Is it any wonder that Peter defines the characteristics of false teachers as being presumptuous? False prophets/teachers were always a problem even in Old Testament times. Their messages were deceptive and tended to be more in line with what the people wanted to hear. They didn’t blatantly introduce, “damnable heresies,” but rather rationalized what they presumed to be seemingly harmless, more charitable issues, thus altered the Word and became “stumbling blocks” to those who would, otherwise, have upheld the Truth.
One such destructive teaching is marriage to the alien being an, “opportunity” to bring s/he into the Truth! Tragically, these well-intended, are deceptive, just as Balaam and the Nicolaitanes were (2Pet 2:15; cf. vv. 2Pet 2:4-6; Rev 2:14,15). Why did God bring about the great Flood (Gen 6:2,3; cf. Deut 7:2-4; Josh 23:11,12; Judg 3:5-8; 1Kin 11:2; 2Cor 6:14-18; and 1Cor 7:39)? We are without excuse.
May we be watchful growing in wisdom, knowledge and understanding, that we may truly know God and Jesus Christ, our Saviour and stand in that day (Prov 2; Prov 4:1,5-7 John 17:3; Eph 1:17,18; Col 1:9; Luke 21:36).
Valerie Mello [in isolation, TN, USA] Comment added in 2021 Reply to Valerie
2Pet 1:5-7 Without faith we cannot pleas God - Heb 11:6 – but that is only a beginning. The additional qualities must also be developed. It is the faith that we have which stimulates us to develop in a Christ like way. But it is a challenge. We must not despair when we see ourselves falling short of the high standards. Rather we should be encouraged by the certainty of the resurrection that we will enjoy.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Peter
The Greek word for 'patience' in this verse is <5281> hupomone and carries the idea of 'hopeful endurance'. How often do we 'endure' adversity or suffering hopefully? Speaking personally, VERY rarely if ever: I just complain bitterly and think God is punishing me (as per Deuteronomy 28).
Yet the Apostle Paul tells us so clearly in Acts 14:22 that it is through MUCH tribulation we must enter the Kingdom of God.
Furthermore James tells us (James 1:3) that the very trying of our faith (i.e. the 'fiery' trials we go through), helps us to develop the 'hopeful endurance'.
I just wish I could bring these two verses to mind when all is crashing down around me!
Nigel Morgan [Fawley UK] Comment added in 2022 Reply to Nigel
1:3 How powerful do we think our God is? For it is because of that power we have been called. We might say “if God be for us who can be against us” Rom 8:31
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2023 Reply to Peter
1:6 Are we “in heaviness” because of the trials we are best with? The word translated “heaviness” is translated “grieved” in John 2:17. A more positive attitude to our trials in life would be to thank God for them as they should be teaching us how to be more like the risen Christ.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter
1:8 Barren and Unfruitful speak of two elements of the life of the believer.
The one who is “barren” has not generated other “children” of faith
The one who is “unfruitful” has not grown the “fruit of the spirit” – Eph 5:9 - in their own lives.
Peter Forbes [Mountsorrel (UK)] Comment added in 2024 Reply to Peter